Phil Perry Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 The ROYAL AIR FORCE. Buying crazy looking aeroplanes since 1918. . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 For someone who always wants to get there first. Nev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Looks like a one-off adaptation of an obsolete Meteor for training purposes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Why did so many early jet aircraft have their engines out on the wings? There were no props to clear the fuselage. It's guaranteed to cause asymetric thrust when one engine fails... Was it just design inertia, lack of imagination, or because pilots expected engines on each wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Why engines on the wings? Well structurally it’s helpful as the load of the engine is out on the wing making the wing structure lighter for the same loaded weights. Given the overal thrust was not huge for the weight of the aircraft saving weight was very important if you had to lug around a couple of very heavy engines. Consider two early jets in a meteor weigh in at 950kg (2,050lbs) and combined produce 4,000lb thrust but gobbled up 2,000kg of kero an hour at full throttle. Airframe weight was critical. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Why did so many early jet aircraft have their engines out on the wings? So they could perform the Zurabatic Cartwheel. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Here is a record of the first time a Zurabatic Cartwheel was done in publi. Highlights Of Farnborough 1951 The pilot was Janusz Żurakowski - Wikipedia The day a dream crashed to earth The Avro Canada Arrow was probably the first new generation military aircraft development that was killed off by government ignorance Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow - Wikipedia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdseye Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 It was a test vehicle for a prone pilot position, with the aim to determine if there were any benefits in things like G tolerance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdseye Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Just checked, there is even a Wiki page on it : Gloster Meteor F8 "Prone Pilot" - Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 I would rather be in the nose of this Meteor than in the nose of the Spad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomadpete Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 That Spad was innovative. It took me a while to work out how the propulsion worked. No need for trigger synchronisation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClintonB Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 no pointing behind- there goes a bad guy! whoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBob Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 Yep...you wouldn't want a gunner with a delicate digestive system.........( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 It makes a good crumple zone for the pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Perhaps the first $#1t hitting the fan experience.. I wonder where the cartridge cases went ..Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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