red750 Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 After taking the photo of the Learjet crossing the road at YMEN (see Media section), I proceeded along Wirraway Road towards the tower. A couple of minutes later I saw a Skycrane water bomber depart towards the city. I wonder if it was the one that crashed into a dam later in the night. Two pilots and the engineer escaped by swimming to the shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Pilot Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 The aircraft that ditched was working from Latrobe Valley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZJohn Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Dynamic roll over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Glad to hear they are ok, and that it was not another horrifying structural failure. Fire bombers seem more prone to structural failure than most other uses. I guess they are loaded to the max and then fly into extreme turbulence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Pilot Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 Dynamic roll over. Nup, vortex ring and settling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 " vortex ring " Just googled it, Fantastic experiment with two colliding rings in a "fish tank". I had thought about vortex rings when looking at big jets taking off, But the idea of those big rotor's on a "Sky-crane" having No lift when hovering, is remarkable. spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfly Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 " vortex ring " Just googled it, Me too ... (that kid knows heaps ? (to save a minute and a half, go straight to 1:35): 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bones Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 How can someone who flys something like that manage to get into the ring, obviously not thinking very far ahead, what a waste of a big beautiful helo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Pilot Posted February 8, 2019 Share Posted February 8, 2019 How can someone who flys something like that manage to get into the ring, obviously not thinking very far ahead, what a waste of a big beautiful helo Those blokes who fly Cranes are very professional and are the best in the industry. The water they were working out of was narrow, not much area to manoeuvre and tricky wind conditions. Fire work can be flying in the worst weather imaginable, how would you like to fly into conditions like these? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Possible the surrounding trees contributed to the formation of a vortex ring. The Down-wash fans out to the edge of the lake then moves up to go over the tree-line. At the hight of the trees tops it could be sucked Back to the Skycrane. It would leave No time to maneuver out of difficulties. spacesailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 One of the (many) hazards of flying rotary wing. The turbulence and loss of lift in hot air is hard on pilots and airframes... Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bones Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Yeah I wouldn’t know about any of that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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