Dumb pax

[Deskpilot]

This is a single engine Cessna landing with gear up. No gear seen out the pilot's window. Incredible!!

 

 

 

The klaxon going off in this video is a warning to the pilots that the aircraft is in the landing configuration and the gear is not down and locked. These two pilots are having a wonderful social conversation instead of doing the pre-landing checklist.

 

 

 

The ending is a good look and sound of what a gear-up landing sounds like.

 

 

 

Being able to ignore that loud warning is amazing. The fact that someone was in the back seat with video and audio recording equipment running recording this magnificent performance of cockpit stupidity, makes this a rare video indeed.

 

http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/356711/842152245/name/Whats_that_beeping.wmv

 

 

[flying dog]

I'm taking it from their accents they were Yanks?

 

 

[Spriteah]

Thats a great example. I've had rougher landings than that with wheels.

 

jim.

 

 

[monty]

What a pair of gooses!! Oops + Pax = a flock of gooses

 

Monty

 

 

[jetjr]

Maybe they knew they were going to land gear up and took the video

 

You couldnt ignore the noise.

 

 

[monty]

Yeh they would have to of known, may be a training video even or just had a video camera handy when the landing gear wouldn't come down.

 

But not a bad landing with no wheels.

 

Monty

 

 

[Deskpilot]

at the end it looks like they realised the screw up.... im surprised the pax didnt stop and ask the two what the beeping was...

That's what I meant by 'Dumb pax'

 

 

[dazza 38]

Hi all, i saw one similar a while back on you tube, the pilot in his own words said that he was very fatiqued after a very long flight and simply forgot on his down wind checks.i dont think it was the same video.It would be hard to not hear the warning buzzer.I reckon, as mentioned above, in the above video, simply couldnt get it down and locked.They where looked pretty calm, sitting there scaping down the runway.When the pilot hit the instrument panel comb, it looked more out of frustration (with the a/c letting him down), than being annoyed at himself for forgetting to lower it.

 

Ps- although i was at colundra a while back mid nineties, there was a twin sitting on they runway few hundred metres from the threshold of 23.He wasnt going anywhere fast, he landed wheels up.It had only been repaired a few weeks earlier, by a previous wheels up landing. The plane was written off after the second one.I dont know weather it was a pilot error or a maintence issue,with the gear, (or a insurance job lol)

 

 

[Tomo]

They reckon there are two types of retractable gear pilots....

 

Those that have landed wheels up, and those that will.

 

Think about the noise cancelation head phones these days I have my doubts you'd hear something like a beep of that velocity. I don't hear the Gps beeping very often in the Jabiru, unless I pull the power back a bit. (volume could be set to low I guess). Not that that should have stopped the pilot doing his pre-landing checks!!

 

I reckon it was a legit landing, the pax was probably in complete trust the pilot knows what he is doing - imagine a back seat pax asking what every beep happens in the cockpit. If you were a pilot and knew a bit about aircraft you may intervene!! But I have my doubts that an innocent person would.

 

I know a guy in dalby who landed wheels up totally unknown to him till it was obviously to late.

 

If it was a proper wheels up landing (ie known problem to the pilots) - the pilot should have briefed the passengers about securing items (doubt they would video it), door should have been opened a bit, and I don't think they would have fiddled around with side slipping the approach somehow.

 

Just my thoughts.

 

 

[jetjr]

Fair enough but who could possibly land wheels up and not swear loudly and repeatedly when you touched down? No one is that controlled are they?

 

ANR headsets actually help hearing these type of noises I find

 

 

[Guest davidh10]

Hi all, i saw one similar a while back on you tube, the pilot in his own words said that he was very fatiqued after a very long flight and simply forgot on his down wind checks....

It is amazing the real effects of fatigue. It is quite possible for this to be a possible explanation. There's a very good article titled Untiring Global FMRS Efforts" in the current issue of "Flight Safety".

 

Civil Aviation Safety Authority - Flight Safety Australia

 

As part of the article it describes the effect on PIC and crew, from a Guantanamo Bay accident, where the PIC ignored the stall alarm (stick shaker) despite being warned by both of the flight crew members and acknowledging their warning. This occurred below 500 feet AGL during a steep turn onto final and resulted in destruction of the aircraft. The aircraft was a Douglas DC8-61.

 

The article contains an excerpt from the testimony of one of the investigators and an excerpt from the cockpit voice recorder transcript.

 

What this highlights is that the effects of fatigue can be life threatening and that people affected by the debilitating effects of fatigue will not realise it at the time. I won't paraphrase the article, but leave you to read it for yourselves.

 

 

[flying dog]

Couple of years ago I was up near Murwillumbah and had landed.

 

Walked over and said hi to some other pilots working on their stuff, then walked over and went to the toilet.

 

Walked out and saw the people to whom I was just talking running up the runway.

 

Looked and someone had just landed wheels up.

 

Alas, he said he was in a hurray. Seems that it didn't save him much time.

 

He said he heard the alarm but was in such a hurray as he had things to do after he landed and so ignored the noise.

 

 

[Guest Sharp End]

I simply don't understand why they kept the fan running if they had an undercarriage malfunction. Bulk strips and new props are VERY exxy! So, it's my opinion they screwed up big time. If you include undercarriage in your downwind checks (Brakes... off, Undercarriage... down [unless you're doing a water landing in an amphib!], Mixture... rich, Flaps... as required... etc, etc) AND in your final checks then the chances of a wheels-up are reduced. Tomo says there are those that have and those that will - maybe that's why I went back to flying fixed gear aircraft BEFORE I joined the "have" club.

 

 

[facthunter]

Gear down.

 

Dunno about those who have and those who will. There are an awful lot of undercarriages going up and down each day and not many belly landings. Things like some beechcraft had the gear and flap lever close to each other and people would retract the flaps after landing tro get more weight on the wheels, with the obvious result. Besides the checklist and the warning horn, most pilots check 3 greens and a landing clearance on late final. The smart ones do. Most of the gear up landings in the old days were performed by CASA. Must be a way to get noticed for promotion. Nev