RAAus Again .....

[Guest Cloudsuck]

I just received my renewal for my RAAus membership (Licence). It states that my membership expires on 11 May 2010. The letter was dated on 18 May 2010 (seven days after my membership lapsed). <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

 

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I was flying for the local 'Blue Light Disco' on the weekend taking kids for rides. I wonder what would have happened if I crashed. I know the insurance company would have dropped me like a hot potato. Nice work RAAus, glad to see your pay rises have equated to better service. <o:p></o:p>

 

 

[Tomo]

Whoops...

 

 

[monty]

Not to sound picky and it is helpful to get a reminder, However I think we have a responsibility to keep our own licence and rego current. I always know when mine are due! RAAus do a lot more than licence reminders.

 

Just my thoughts (Sorry)

 

Monty

 

 

[Guest Cloudsuck]

Not to sound picky and it is helpful to get a reminder, However I think we have a responsibility to keep our own licence and rego current. I always know when mine are due! RAAus do a lot more than licence reminders.Just my thoughts (Sorry)

 

Monty

Yes but, this is not the Dept of Transport. This is OUR organisation fully funded by US and we are the clients. They have all just had massive pay rises. Usually I would receive that renewal letter a month before expiry. Instead, it was not written until a week after expiry. I'm sorry; I demand reasonable service from this crowd. If I wanted total incompetence, I would go to CASA. I am really P#$%ed off. I could have potentially lost my plane, my house, everything over this. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

 

 

[Yenn]

Maybe it would be better to talk to RAAus, rather than us. They might have accepted responsibility. Remember the person who never made a mistake, never made anything.

 

 

[Guest Cloudsuck]

I will be talking to them tomorrow. This post may be helpful to others about to suffer the same fate.

 

 

[Guest Wigg]

Must have something to do with the date cloudstruck I never received my notification either. Just happens I had rang tham on another matter & noticed I was 1 day overdue my renewal, Sue

 

 

[Spin]

Not sure that I would be broadcasting the fact that I had been flying without a licence, on a public forum.

 

 

[Guest ozzie]

I posted on the same problem last year. between the RAAus processing and sending out the renewal and Australia Post actually getting it to your post box is just so chancey. best to scratch the expiery date on the hanger wall or something.

 

remember the ultimate cop out for everyone bar yourself goes along the lines of, the PIC shall make sure he is 100% Kosha.

 

 

[monty]

I am sorry but if it HAD been sent out on time by RAAust and Aust post had lost it (which happens a lot) who would be responsible then? No one to blame for not renewing a licence but the licence holder themselves and suffer the consequences if they don't. It is an Administrative error, we have to be responsible for somethings in life ourselves. I don't know of any company in the world that has never made an administrative error. THATS LIFE!!!

 

This is not directed at you Personaly Cloudsuck just my opinion on a forum post about RAAust.

 

Monty

 

 

[Tomo]

As mean as it might sound to you personally Cloudsuck, I agree with Monty/Ozzie. It's discouraging a bit to hear them slacking behind, but I do think it sort of lie's with the user.

 

 

[Guest Cloudsuck]

I am sorry but if it HAD been sent out on time by RAAust and Aust post had lost it (which happens a lot) who would be responsible then? No one to blame for not renewing a licence but the licence holder themselves and suffer the consequences if they don't. It is an Administrative error, we have to be responsible for somethings in life ourselves. I don't know of any company in the world that has never made an administrative error. THATS LIFE!!!This is not directed at you Personaly Cloudsuck just my opinion on a forum post about RAAust.

 

Monty

 

You are missing the point. It is not a postage error and has nothing to do with Aust Post etc. The letter was not even written until one week after it expired stating that I need to renew by a date one week earlier. This is not an administrative error, it is incompetence. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I had come to grief in the past two weeks, I would sue the XXXX off the RAAus and there would have been a Current Affair story to match. Why do people on this forum accept this kind of poor administration when this is the kind of thing that WILL bring it down. People bleating about 760kg this and CTA that and Cessna’s coming in like it is the end of the world, I just don’t get it.<o:p></o:p>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[monty]

QUOTE;From Cloudsuck

 

"You are missing the point"

 

"This is not an administrative error, it is incompetence"

 

"Why do people on this forum accept this kind of poor administration"

 

A bit of a contradiction

 

Yes!! I think the point is being missed. Not by me though

 

Yes!! it is NOT a postage error and never was

 

It is about one's own responsibility not RAAust

 

I will agree to disagree!!

 

Monty

 

 

[Guest Cloudsuck]

QUOTE;From Cloudsuck"You are missing the point"

"This is not an administrative error, it is incompetence"

 

"Why do people on this forum accept this kind of poor administration"

 

A bit of a contradiction

 

Yes!! I think the point is being missed. Not by me though

 

Yes!! it is NOT a postage error and never was

 

It is about one's own responsibility not RAAust

 

I will agree to disagree!!

 

Monty

And you will get the administration you deserve.

 

 

[Guest Crezzi]

I suspect most people on this forum haven't accepted this "poor administration" since they probably haven't experienced it.

 

Besides venting your ire on here, have you asked the RA-Aus office for an explanation ?

 

AFAIK CASA don't send out reminders either ?

 

Cheers

 

John

 

 

[Guest Cloudsuck]

I suspect most people on this forum haven't accepted this "poor administration" since they probably haven't experienced it. Besides venting your ire on here, have you asked the RA-Aus office for an explanation ?

 

AFAIK CASA don't send out reminders either ?

 

Cheers

 

John

No I received the renewal at 5:30 pm this afternoon. Tomorrow if the day for that. Oh and CASA licences don't expire, ever!

 

 

[pudestcon]

Cloudsuck, Come and talk to us in the chatroom - we are all discussing your posts and having a running commentary

 

Pud

 

 

[Guest Crezzi]

Oh and CASA licences don't expire, ever!

I'm aware of that but medicals expire & AFR are required. Is a PPL holder not expected to take responsibility for these themselves ?

 

 

[Relfy]

I'd have to agree with others, it is the responsibility of PIC to ensure he/she is licensed accordingly. I was aware mine was coming up for renewal and certainly would not have flown without renewing it for obvious insurance reasons.

 

As for thoughts of legal action against RAA if something had happened??? :raise_eyebrow:

 

Sending out reminders is expensive and time consuming. I would personally prefer that reminders were not sent out and that the money saved went back into other safety programs etc. My opinion is that RAA is an organisation that will strive with strong member support and freeing up the administrative functions required will always benefit members.

 

 

[Guest JRMobile]

Sending out reminders is expensive and time consuming. I would personally prefer that reminders were not sent out and that the money saved went back into other safety programs etc. My opinion is that RAA is an organisation that will strive with strong member support and freeing up the administrative functions required will always benefit members.

Well put Relfy :thumb_up:.

 

 

[Guest Crezzi]

Or get yourself a free Google calendar - very easy to setup multiple reminders by email, text or popup. Great for remembering birthdays / anniversaries etc too !

 

 

[Vorticity]

I would love to see you try and sue RAAus (me and 6000 or so other pilots) because you had failed in one of your legal responsibilities as a pilot, to ensure that you are apprpriatley licennsed and current to conduct the flight. I find it personally offensive that you think it would have been appropriate to sue all of us.

 

The team down in Canberra work hard, I don't see why they should be copping the harsh words being thrown about when you where clearly part of the system that failed.

 

I bet everyone reading this thread went straight and checked their own ticket!

 

 

[Relfy]

and that Vorticity, is the great thing about this site. Sharing information, learning and developing ourselves. Cloudsuck has brought up an interesting topic and if others also realise to check and see when their cert expires, then he has helped others to avoid any potential probs. :thumb_up:

 

Crezzi is on the money with the google calendar, it's a great tool to use and very easy to navigate around.

 

 

[storchy neil]

geting mad every one eleses fault but mine syndrome doese not go with me why blame that chinese bloke for your stupidy just think off the ramifactions had you had an oh XXXX moment

 

RAAus has more to do than hold your hand

 

the guys and girls in canbera have gone out of their way on several phone calls i have made to them neil

 

 

[markendee]

Getting mad, everyone else's fault but mine syndrome does not go well with me. Why blame that Chinese bloke for your stupidity. Just think of the ramifications had you had an oh XXXX moment.RAAus has more to do than hold your hand. The guys and girls in Canberra have gone out of their way on several phone calls I have made to them. Neil

Interestingly put Neil.