Ultralight down in outback NSW

[pudestcon]

Does anybody know anything about this Two survive ultra-light plane crash - The West Australian

 

Pud

 

 

[Corky]

Pilot and PAX OK. Jabiru 170 from Tooradin on a trip to Broken Hill had an engine failure 59NM south of Broken Hill. Failure of cylinder head bolts on number 4 cylinder. Fortunately were able to glide to a station private airstrip and landed without further damage to aircraft.

 

 

[turboplanner]

Wonderful ad for the quality of Tooradin training, but how many cylinder bolt failures before there's a fix?

 

 

[Powerin]

"landed without further damage".....doesn't sound like a "plane crash" to me! Just a little bit of media exaggeration?

 

 

[pudestcon]

Good to hear everyone is ok. Cylinder head bolts on a Jab engine - have I heard this before?

 

It will be interesting to find out the cause.

 

Pud

 

 

[facthunter]

head bolts.

 

Are we talking of head bolts or crankcase studs? Nev..

 

 

[turboplanner]

Just media reports so far

 

 

[Gibbo]

Anybody know the rego? I've had a similair problem last year in one of them.... Varying Oil pressure, High temps, rough running and fuel consumption around 26lph. ECG on the right hand side was at least 20 degrees hotter. Great fun 100 nm from the nearest strip crossing the Barkley. thumb_down

 

 

[tonymcg]

Gibbo, it was the J160 with the 170 wings, you'll know the one ;-)

 

2 of the left-rear cylinder studs let go.

 

The guys were lucky (??) enough to be overhead a station which had a HUUUGE private strip, maybe 1.4 kms long and 40m wide.

 

-32.894000, 141.987000 - Google Maps

 

I'll leave it to the PIC, a forum member, to fill in further details.

 

 

[Gibbo]

Hmmm.. That had a new motor not long ago.. about the time I killed 5228.. lol

 

That area is covered in private strips and some are a little more elabirate that what you would find on the east coast.. Rice mills make reallt good hangers and workshops.

 

Gibbo

 

 

[Guest ozzie]

Media reports say the police are looking for witnesses to the forced landing, ??

 

 

[JayKay]

The registration of the aircraft is 24-4587

 

Some pics of the motor after the event ...

 

Note the two missing bolt heads on the cylinder head and the through-bolt is just loose (with no head)

 

 

 

 

 

 

[JayKay]

Media reports say the police are looking for witnesses to the forced landing, ??

Maybe some kangaroos, but that would be about it.

 

 

[Bryon]

Two survive ultra-light plane crash - The West Australian[/url]Pud

I can tell you a little bit about this one Pud, I was PIC

 

The engine failed at 3100 feet , my pucker clamped shut at 3099 feet :lol 8: and it was all downhill from there

 

Bryon

 

 

[pudestcon]

I can tell you a little bit about this one Pud, I was PICThe engine failed at 3100 feet , my pucker clamped shut at 3099 feet :lol 8: and it was all downhill from there

Bryon

Jeez Bryon,

 

Glad to hear you are ok - tell me, did the pucker factor interfere with your piles:laugh: I reckon my pucker would have opened wide if you know what I mean:yuk:

 

How did the aircraft perform with no noise - was it much different to simulated engine failure where the engine is at idle? Did you have enough time from 3000' to select a landing area and do all your checks including radio calls? As a matter of interest, did you make a mayday call?

 

I reckon you'd be much more knowledgable now you have been through a real engine failure.

 

I've asked a lot of questions here Bryon and will understand if you don't want to answer them. It's great that you are here so I can ask them:thumb_up:

 

Cheers,

 

Pud

 

 

[Bryon]

Jeez Bryon,Glad to hear you are ok - tell me, did the pucker factor interfere with your piles:laugh: I reckon my pucker would have opened wide if you know what I mean:yuk:

 

How did the aircraft perform with no noise - was it much different to simulated engine failure where the engine is at idle? Did you have enough time from 3000' to select a landing area and do all your checks including radio calls? As a matter of interest, did you make a mayday call?

 

I reckon you'd be much more knowledgable now you have been through a real engine failure.

 

I've asked a lot of questions here Bryon and will understand if you don't want to answer them. It's great that you are here so I can ask them:thumb_up:

 

Cheers,

 

Pud

Pud,

 

To tell you the truth, it happened real quick.

 

We were at 3100, just climbing after dropping to 15-1800 to go under a cloud.

 

The ground level was about 800, so I did not have the full 3100 to play with.

 

THe engine gave a bang and continued to run real noisy and shaking the sh*t out of the plane.

 

"Gosh" I said.

 

I pulled the throttle and checked ts & ps.

 

Oil pressure down and motor still shaking and banging. Slight throttle up, more banging and shaking

 

Looked for somewhere to land to the left or straight ahead - nothing, only trees and scrub with the occasional 50m clearing

 

Glen (my pax) said "There's a stip to the right"

 

Turned right and we were exactly lined up with an east west dirt strip in a clearing about 3-4 nm away

 

Checked speed, checked distance, checked height and knew we couldnt make a downwind and 180 turn into wind

 

Decided to go with what we had, aimed for strip, keep speed down, changed from the numbers to area frequency and made a Mayday Call

 

Gave em a rough position and concentrated on flying the plane

 

Confirmed our rough position and came over the fence on the threshold at about 85 knots and lowered one stage of flap (strip was downhill slope and we had a tailwind)

 

Bounced twice (bl**dy hell) and she stayed on the deck, brakes on, mags off and roll to stop

 

Looked at pax and said "Oh jolly gosh" (or a word to that effect)

 

About the only thing I didnt do was my pax brief, I was too busy flying the plane and my focus was on landing the bl**dy thing

 

It all happened so quick, I reckon 2-3 minutes from time of initial bang

 

Yes the training does kick in, so I recommend everyone practice their emergency landings at least once a month

 

Bryon

 

PS my pucker is still clamped shut

 

 

[pudestcon]

PS my pucker is still clamped shut

And so is mine just reading about it!!

 

Well done:score 010:

 

Pud

 

 

[Bryon]

Thanks,

 

I am starting to feel a little easier about it now

 

But boy, it does get the old adrenalin pumping

 

Bryon

 

 

[Guest JRMobile]

Bryon

 

Well done mate! and thanks for sharing,sounds like a busy 3 minutes!

 

Cheers John

 

 

[Bryon]

Thanks JR,

 

It was busy, but everything worked out OK

 

I must thank Glen, if he hadnt spotted the strip, the outcome could have been a lot worse

 

It is ironic that as we came out from under the cloud, I said to him that I was climbing because I didnt like this country and I want some glide height

 

All the way up from Tooradin, we had been looking out for possible landing places as the trip was a bit of a xc exercise for Glen.

 

He has just got his pilots certificate and had just done his ground training for his xc endorsement and he was doing the map reading

 

I hope this hasnt put him off flying....

 

Bryon

 

 

[winsor68]

Wow... I shudder to think of the outcome if it had occurred 2 minutes earlier. I always shudder to read how little time it takes to be on the ground when reading these accounts.

 

Well done in handling the situation.

 

 

[dazza 38]

Well done Byron, im glad yourself and Glen are fine.Top Job i reckon.

 

 

[Tomo]

Why he's our drummer!!!! It's a wonder you knew the old girl had missed a beat... ( )

 

Good stuff Bryan, certainly would have gotten the blood pumping. I know when I had my EFATO It was all over in about 6 seconds, but boy did It wake you up!

 

Great to hear what you actually did, comforting (at your expense I guess) to hear what others do.

 

Keep it up :thumb_up: (the good bits only, obviously)

 

 

[Gibbo]

The old girl has been in a few wars and has always come out on top. :)

 

Well done guys.

 

Gibbo

 

 

[Guest Pioneer200]

Pud,To tell you the truth, it happened real quick.

We were at 3100, just climbing after dropping to 15-1800 to go under a cloud.

 

The ground level was about 800, so I did not have the full 3100 to play with.

 

THe engine gave a bang and continued to run real noisy and shaking the sh*t out of the plane.

 

"Gosh" I said.

 

I pulled the throttle and checked ts & ps.

 

Oil pressure down and motor still shaking and banging. Slight throttle up, more banging and shaking

 

Looked for somewhere to land to the left or straight ahead - nothing, only trees and scrub with the occasional 50m clearing

 

Glen (my pax) said "There's a stip to the right"

 

Turned right and we were exactly lined up with an east west dirt strip in a clearing about 3-4 nm away

 

Checked speed, checked distance, checked height and knew we couldnt make a downwind and 180 turn into wind

 

Decided to go with what we had, aimed for strip, keep speed down, changed from the numbers to area frequency and made a Mayday Call

 

Gave em a rough position and concentrated on flying the plane

 

Confirmed our rough position and came over the fence on the threshold at about 85 knots and lowered one stage of flap (strip was downhill slope and we had a tailwind)

 

Bounced twice (bl**dy hell) and she stayed on the deck, brakes on, mags off and roll to stop

 

Looked at pax and said "Oh jolly gosh" (or a word to that effect)

 

About the only thing I didnt do was my pax brief, I was too busy flying the plane and my focus was on landing the bl**dy thing

 

It all happened so quick, I reckon 2-3 minutes from time of initial bang

 

Yes the training does kick in, so I recommend everyone practice their emergency landings at least once a month

 

Bryon

 

PS my pucker is still clamped shut

 

Sorry this may be a silly question but did you shut the engine off, or did you put up with the vibration and land it wih the prop still turning, from what you say about turning mags off on touchdown you must have landed it with prop still turning!!!

 

How bad was the vibration??

 

By the way, bloody well done:clap: