DarkSarcasm Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 Hi all, I know that to carry pax you have to have done 3 take offs & landings within the previous 90 days. My question is whether this has to be done in an RA aircraft or whether 3 takeoffs/landings in a GA aircraft would count as being current. The ops manual says that the takeoffs/landings must have been "in an aircraft of a "similar" type [their " "] as that to be used for the carriage of passengers". Would a GA aircraft qualify as "similar"?
Guest basscheffers Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 The exact, precise answer is: it depends. :) If you go fly a J230 and do your 3 landings in a C172, you'd probably be OK. But that GA-8 Airvan won't do you any good if you want to be current in a Drifter... The way I see it is that: a) use common sense on what is similar and b) if in doubt, it's not that much work to load up the aircraft minus PAX, do three circuits, get the self loading freight in and go where you were planning to go...
DarkSarcasm Posted April 18, 2011 Author Posted April 18, 2011 Yeh, I'm referring to going from a Warrior to a J160. So, I wouldn't need to go do 3 circuits in the J160 to carry pax, since I've done 3 takeoffs/landings in the Warrior in the last 90 days?
Tomo Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 The way I understand it is... well yes it depends, but; The Warrior is a high performance aircraft, and so is the J160. So in my opinion it would be okay. I think it would be more relevant, like Bass said, with the difference between High and Low performance aircraft. Just my thoughts :csm:
motzartmerv Posted April 18, 2011 Posted April 18, 2011 Thats the first time ive heard the warrior reffered to as a high performance acft. (tomo, i dont think you understand what that smiley means) Just do 3 ccts in the jab before taking a pax. Wont cost much, and makes sure your compliant. If you havnt flown a jab for 90 days, id consider it prudent to do a couple of bumpy's before doin anything with the mother in law.
DarkSarcasm Posted April 18, 2011 Author Posted April 18, 2011 If you havnt flown a jab for 90 days, id consider it prudent to do a couple of bumpy's before doin anything with the mother in law. Haven't got a mother in law (yet). I am taking my boss up in the Warrior though, wonder if I'll still be employed afterwards... :big_grin:
Mathew Ker Posted April 19, 2011 Posted April 19, 2011 Darky, You are welcome to borrow my Mother-In-Law. She makes excellent ballast and isn't called "The Dragon Lady" for no reason. Should things turn sour you could pitch her out and with her wings she would fly . No - really I do love my Mother-In-Law. really, trulyyyy (voice trailing off into the distance and gorgeous and long-suffering wife drags me away for some personal retraining!!)
frank marriott Posted April 19, 2011 Posted April 19, 2011 Given a BFR in a Warrier/C172 and the like satisfy the BFR requirements for RAA HP licence I would suggest the 90 day requirement would also be met. Different matter for the LP licence requirements Frank
Hildy Posted April 19, 2011 Posted April 19, 2011 Just do 3 ccts in the jab before taking a pax. Wont cost much, and makes sure your compliant. If you havnt flown a jab for 90 days, id consider it prudent to do a couple of bumpy's before doin anything with the mother in law. depending on local ATC, 3ccts may take an hour!
turboplanner Posted April 19, 2011 Posted April 19, 2011 just dont do what i did on my first trip into YMMB many years ago..................... It's OK CFI, they cleaned it up afterwards
turboplanner Posted April 19, 2011 Posted April 19, 2011 Darky I've seen pilots struggle to get the Cherokee Warrior down when they were used to the Cherokee 140's rate of sink, and in terms of control in the landing phase I wouldn't classify a J160 as "similar" if you haven't been in one for months. The ground effect in the low wing Warrior is like a big comfortable doona which covers a lot of mistakes.
poteroo Posted April 20, 2011 Posted April 20, 2011 If you are 'licenced' both RAA & GA - then a BFR in either, (with a dual rated SI/CFI), meets requirements, and for currency,so does doing your 90 days 3 ccts. Of course, follow the sensible advice given by previous posters. happy days,
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