Magazine?

[fly_tornado]

I like the name, as far as using the mag to recruit new pilots its a definite winner! RAA needs to shake off the "uncle ted in his shed" image

 

 

[Girl Fox and a Bat]

The board came up with the name, after making a choice from over two hundred....

 

 

[Kenchhidu]

Let's call it 'Pacific Flyer'. They have the same stories (and ad's) anyway.

 

 

[turboplanner]

CFI, that's what you would call a member of SAAA

 

 

[Guernsey]

The board came up with the name, after making a choice from over two hundred....

Where did the over two hundred names come from.

 

Alan.

 

 

[Girl Fox and a Bat]

Where did the over two hundred names come from.Alan.

Ummmm, the board?

 

 

[Kenchhidu]

Ummmm, the board?

I'll leave that one. I sure there's enough other threads saying exactly what people think of 'the board'.

 

 

[turboplanner]

Well at least they are talking to someone.

 

 

[Girl Fox and a Bat]

I agree the members should have taken a vote on the name; I just wanted to point out that Sport Pilot was not chosen by the publisher, but by a board vote.

 

The advertising came over from Zebra - they're the same ads as have been in the last few editions, as most advertisers are on a contract.

 

 

[Guest davidh10]

where did they get 'Sport Pilot' from???...dont reckon I'd call myself that!.."Hooked on Flying" perhaps!!

I rather like "Hooked on Flying". It's modern and is unashamedly a simple observation about why you would buy it. "Sport Pilot" sounds like something associated with red bovines...with wings.

 

 

[Guernsey]

I like the name, as far as using the mag to recruit new pilots its a definite winner! RAA needs to shake off the "uncle ted in his shed" image

I see your point, but I suppose it is what you conjure up in your mind when you see the word'recreation'. Just up the road from us is a huge building called a 'Recreation Centre'

 

it caters for many indoor activities and sports and is is dominated by young people. There arn't many 'Uncle Teds' in this shed.

 

I suppose we could apply the reverse and say that Sport Pilot could deter some of us 'Uncle Ted' types thinking it was to do with sporty, aerobatic, pylon racing type flying.

 

Perhaps we could combine the two and call it 'Recreation and Sport Pilot'

 

Alan Marriette.

 

 

[fly_tornado]

if we where interested in truth in advertising "retired pilot and pensioner magazine" would probably be more apt. One of the RAA's role is to promote the adoption of flying, I consider it a sport more than a hobby so I am happy.

 

 

[Guest SAJabiruflyer]

Here in SA I can only read these posts and hope the mail man delivers soon! but luckily 4WD Action came today along with it's DVD so that's enough to keep me occupied and out of trouble for at least 24 hours.

 

 

[Guest SAJabiruflyer]

gotta remember Brett that SA is 30mins behind Tassie (well most of Oz actually)...I coulda told u who won the last race at the greys...would have made a fortune...Oh well...next time!

I've only ever spent two weeks in Tassie and i absolutely loved it. Found the people friendly, always willing to have a chat. Shop owners showed customer service that is very rare. and the free oysters at Carlton River.. mmmmmmmmm yummy. cant wait to visit again!

 

 

[Guest GraemeM]

Oysters??? Snot in a shell.

 

Graeme.

 

 

[Guest SAJabiruflyer]

i lived in Adelaide for a couple of years.....if you had to live in a Capital city, Adelaide is the one!Back on topic....any other suggestions for a mag title??

How about "Richi Rich PlayBoys Who Have Far Too Much Money And Spend It On Their Expensive Flying Machine Toys". That way the Mag would be named after how the general public see's flyers.

 

 

[pete8862]

do'nt the yanks call our type of aircraft sport planes

 

 

[Admin]

The board came up with the name, after making a choice from over two hundred....

Sport Pilot was started by Rod Birrell (Vic Member) and then supported by Lynn Jarvis (SA Member)...it was then put to the board in an unofficial vote on 3 options:

 

Sport Pilot

 

Sport Aviation

 

Sport Aviator

 

My response to that was:

 

Personally I don't like the name "Sport" as I asked a couple of non-aviation interested people and they said Sport to them means competition...I then asked them with what you know about aviation would you think is Sport in aviation...the 4 of them said the Red Bull Race.

 

The other reason I don't like Sport is that we have suffered by other aviation communities by using the name Recreational, we are now stepping on the toes of SAAA and I fear there will be a backlash to it.

 

If we are trying to attract people into RAAus we need to consider that these type of people would not know the difference between the words Ultralight and Recreational or Sport and MTOW 600kg.

 

However whilst we can always change the mag name down the track, we are hampered by time so my vote out of the 3 would reluctantly be "Sport Pilot"

 

But Note: the domain name of sportpilot.com.au is owned by Tyson i.e. Sky Shop so some commercialisation of our name may take place unless we can convince him to give the name to us as there currently isn't any live site on that domain.

 

Details are:

 

Domain Name: sportpilot.com.au

 

Last Modified: 21-Oct-2010 01:17:11 UTC

 

Registrar ID: Domain Central

 

Registrar Name: Domain Central

 

Status: ok

 

Registrant: TYSON, DEBBIE

 

Registrant ID: ABN 97527857081

 

Eligibility Type: Sole Trader

 

Registrant Contact ID: C02292-DC

 

Registrant Contact Name: Debbie Tyson

 

Registrant Contact Email: Visit whois.ausregistry.com.au for Web based WhoIs

 

Tech Contact ID: C02292-DC

 

Tech Contact Name: Debbie Tyson

 

Tech Contact Email: Visit whois.ausregistry.com.au for Web based WhoIs

 

Name Server: dns1.domaincentral.net.au

 

Name Server IP: 202.174.84.209

 

Name Server: dns2.domaincentral.net.au

 

Name Server IP: 202.174.84.210

 

I then sent an email to everyone on the board that I post in here for some suggestions from you people but I got the felling that was frowned upon.

 

It then changed to a bigger official poll containing:

 

Sport Pilot

 

Sport Aviation

 

Sport Aviator

 

Pleasure Pilot

 

Pleasure Flyer

 

Pleasure Aviator

 

Leisure Pilot

 

Leisure Flyer

 

Leisure Aviator

 

Freedom Pilot

 

Freedom Flyer

 

Freedom Aviator

 

Sport Flying

 

Light Aircraft and Pilots

 

Aircraft Pilots

 

Limited Altitude

 

Pilot

 

Sport Flyer

 

Because I didn't like any of them, "Freedom" has a connection to the President's business, Sport has a connection to the SAAA, etc I didn't vote and my vote would not have changed the outcome as I also didn't like any of the names that already had votes with Sport Pilot in the lead but the results were:

 

Sport Pilot - 5 votes

 

Freedom Flyer - 2 votes

 

Leisure Aviator - 2 votes

 

Pleasure Aviator - 1 vote

 

I personally think it would have been much better to have put it our here even for just 48hrs to get a general feeling from many members...which is what I tried to do but ignored

 

 

[Kenchhidu]

What's wrong with the word Recreational? Obviously it can't be 'Recreational Flying' but what about 'Recreational Pilot'?

 

 

[turboplanner]

Geez Kenshhidu, don't let logic come into it.

 

 

[HEON]

I personally do not care what it is called.

 

What I very much care about is the timely distribution to the members and the Newsagents for sale to allow;

 

1. Members HOPEFULLY to get TIMELY information from the organisation,

 

2.Non members to read about the wounderful area of "pleasure/sport/etc" aviation,

 

3.Suppliers such as myself get value for money for the adds we buy to promote our products. I also include the Members Market here.

 

I wrote to RA Aus about this early in the year and was pleased that the problems of the previous seemed to be being addressed. I was even prepared to put up with a month "transition" due to poor management BUT NO MORE

 

NEWSFLASH: RA Aus you have failed!

 

No copy myself; no copies in newsagent! The EARLIST will now be 13 June...THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH

 

 

[DarkSarcasm]

I like the new format and name far better, it makes the organisation seem a lot more vibrant and interesting and the simple large name is easier to see and remember. Overall the cover at least is a LOT less daggy than the old version, it's something that might make other people on the train think 'that looks like an interesting magazine'. The articles were a lot more interesting than usual too in my opinion, I haven't read the mag for the past few months because I was getting tired of endless stories of 'we went here, we went there' etc which can get a bit repetitive, I liked the inclusion of articles such as how to photograph your aircraft.

 

 

[moz]

For me I'm not too worried about the title. I think what needs to be addressed is:

 

1. The issue of on-time delivery
    
    
   
2. Content - stuff that is useful in helping us be better pilots, and may entice new members.
    
    
   

 

 

 

 

[fly_tornado]

The idea behind the "sport pilot" name is to latch onto the global standard the FAA and EAA have created, so when someone googles "sport pilot" they get a heap of information, most of which is published by the EAA so it costs us nothing and of a better quality than what the RAA can afford to publish. Its one of the benefits of globalisation, affordability.

 

 

[sain]

isn't there already a mag in the states called Sports Pilot? Trademark infringement suit in 5...4...3...