Guest skebstebamali Posted July 14, 2011 Posted July 14, 2011 Hi all. I'm a newbie so please excuse if I have posted in the wrong spot, or asked a previously asked Q?. I have been trying to find out if a 140 is eligible for RA-AUS reg? It seems that originally they were a shade over the MTOW allowed 600kg. Does anyone know if one has been reg'd before in this class? Love the 140. I hope I can get one for a full restoration project and eventually shows.
Guernsey Posted July 14, 2011 Posted July 14, 2011 Contact RAA-Aus direct, they will be able and willing to help. Alan.
Guest skebstebamali Posted July 14, 2011 Posted July 14, 2011 Contact RAA-Aus direct, they will be able and willing to help.Alan. Thanks Alan. Yes I did email RAA-Aus but did not get a reply. I'll give them a buzz. I noticed that a Luscombe 8A is RA reg'd and they are pretty similar in weight. might be a goer. Thanks again
facthunter Posted July 14, 2011 Posted July 14, 2011 There is a strict formula that is now stipulated for these types of aircraft. Steve may not be there all the time, but it is a "no exemptions" rule . Had to be done as a result of some very dubious types being registered. The weights stated were the prime problem. . Might be a good idea to start with a recent W&B. ( Done properly). it's not based on the original MTOW, but a basic weight Plus pilot plus stipulated fuel ++ . ..Nice plane, What year of manufacture? Engine Cont. 0-200? The original is about 85 hp. The empty weight at 404 Kgs gives you a good chance. Your original AUW is 658. Does it come with a wooden prop? If not you might save weight with a change of prop, Composite Sensenich or wood? Remove the starter or fit lightweight one and fit smaller battery , more modern radio. Aircraft don't normally get lighter as they age, Good luck. Nev 1
BPN Posted July 14, 2011 Posted July 14, 2011 If my memory serves me correctly I think there was a magnificently restored C140 registered RAA in Broken Hill. i reckon if you contacted someone form YBHI aero club they would put you right. Regards Bruce
Guest skebstebamali Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 If my memory serves me correctly I think there was a magnificently restored C140 registered RAA in Broken Hill.i reckon if you contacted someone form YBHI aero club they would put you right. Regards Bruce Thanks for our responses. RA-AUS have got back to me regarding the weights, and it certainly seems doable, but a recent W&B will be a must before purchase. If you know of any coming up for sale let me know. Finders fee :) That's a beautiful aircraft Windsor Family. In Mackay Hey, I'm up there a tonne for work I'll keep an eye out for her in the sky. What a great source of information! thanks again.
Guest skebstebamali Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 Nev it sure looks like its going to be hard work to get it there. im sure everyone has had the discussion, but the weight seems so arbitary. so if i need to shave weight off, ill be pulling the original seats out and making some carbons jobbies, pulling out the starter etc. why, whats the point? At the end of the day the 140 has mtow of 648kg by manufacturer. so that will govern max weight. surely stripping the plane down to save 48 kg is stupid? or worse still half filling ur tanks. I think ra-aus is awesome and it has got me into flying. but there needs to be some leniancy? 10percent to max manufacturers spec? i dont mean if it the aircraft has a mtow of 800 say, go for, but, with modern carbon planes with very low empty weights, they are going to be used OVER 600 kg for sure, cause they can. sorry for whinging. i am feeling dissapointed that the 140 is realistically unlikely to get ra reg without stripping it. not much use if i want an original for restoration.
fly_tornado Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 One of the original goals of the LSA class was to stimulate manufacturers to design and build new planes.
Guest skebstebamali Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 One of the original goals of the LSA class was to stimulate manufacturers to design and build new planes. Yes and this was a good idea. But why would an older heavier docile 2 seater be ruled out. i race motox and i can race a higher horsepower two stroke against a new four stroke? why, because MA wanted to keep racing affordable ( two stroke cheaper to maintain etc, and harder to ride so similar speed). by encouraging new planes, to get areasonable two seat xc plane u r up for60 to 100k. a cessna 140 . . 35-40k for a decent one. so the poorer pilot may be ruled out. yes there are cheaper jabs and others, but without starting an engine debate, for me i want reliable . . not valve failures. anyway i digress. food for thought
winsor68 Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 Thanks for our responses. RA-AUS have got back to me regarding the weights, and it certainly seems doable, but a recent W&B will be a must before purchase.If you know of any coming up for sale let me know. Finders fee :) That's a beautiful aircraft Windsor Family. In Mackay Hey, I'm up there a tonne for work I'll keep an eye out for her in the sky. What a great source of information! thanks again. She is not mine Skeb... sadly! lol.... She shares a hanger with the Sav S I hire... Good luck! Are there rag-wing and metal wing C140's?
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