Admin Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Thanks Andy...well, here's an idea...what say I set up a forum site, un-moderated with its own domain and you guys can go for it all you like...I can do that for you today if you like...I have a spare forum software licence that I can use and I can give you a pick of domains from the ones I already have...I have spare hosting so it would be all covered...it would just be a forum site for Governing Bodies. I think that would be a good idea as it would satisfy everyone instead of trying to keep everyone happy in one single place...what say you all? OH, PS, the two sites can't overlap though
Guest Andys@coffs Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Ian You moved to fix something you percieved as broken. I dont agree it was indeed broken. But that said, my view as a visitor is relatively worthless as I tried to alllude in my last post. What I personally think in the great scheme of things is irrelevant, what others think can, i guess, be gauged in participation levels. I pressume as David very politely alluded, that a "possible" indicator is site activity which I judge as being less than it might have been. Is that good or bad......thats for each of us individually to judge. If I offended then Im sorry for that, but I dont stand away from my comment and make the point that I actually agree its moderation, in moderation, that does what is needed, an unmoderated site would fail. Anyway Ive said enough on the subject and have to acknowledge that other than the comments I make I hold no legal liability for the whole. You on the otherhand have a different set of constraints which must be acknowledged. Andy
Admin Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Andy, I was serious...I could set up a site for those that don't agree with the way this site is now no problem...I would gladly do it so you can have it your way and all the other users that don't want politics can have it their way as well...you didn't offend me. You say you didn't think it was broken but many others did say it was, including me who didn't like even coming here any more and I was obligated to...everyone has different wants and one person's wants are just as important as the next person...I just can't seem to satisfy everyone's wants but always trying to but in the mean time I have to go with the majority until I can find a solution...incidentally, the traffic stats have actually increased lately so that is another thing that I can't risk by going back again...previously the site's new registrations were slowly decreasing month by month...now they are increasing again same as bandwidth and number of logins and real guests. I am all ears on how I can protect the site, keep the majority happy whilst also trying to keep the minority happy as well...every time I ask for comment in polls etc, no one says anything so just making these kind of posts isn't giving me any answers to do what I can for both the majority and the minority. In terms of moderation...you are always damned if you do and damned if you don't...there is not a single answer in moderation that EVERYONE likes, so we just simply have to try and try our best we do...there is nothing personal in it, there is no right or wrong way, there is no answer that will suit everyone except all we can do is simply do our best...and no one can ask for anything more then that especially that none of us get paid to do all this work for everyone...we all volunteer to do our best to provide you with at least something to come to to help each other in everyone's flying endeavours! As I keep saying, I am ALL EARS, YOU CAN PM ME, YOU CAN PHONE ME...crikey, you can even send me a letter and I will pay for the bloody stamp if you want...if everyone just simply stopped criticising behind their keyboard without providing a possible solution, then everyone can benefit!!!!!
Admin Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Besides, a separate site would work in with my plans better as well
farri Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 But that said, my view as a visitor is relatively worthless.What I personally think in the great scheme of things is irrelevant.Andy In my opinion, Not so! Andy. I prefer to see everyone telling it exactly as they see it, provided it is not slanderous or liableous. I often don`t say what I would realy like to, simply in an attempt to be diplomatic. Wouldn`t it be better if everyone said what they realy think, without fear of being censored. Frank.
Guest Andys@coffs Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 .......As I keep saying, I am ALL EARS, YOU CAN PM ME, YOU CAN PHONE ME...crikey, you can even send me a letter and I will pay for the bloody stamp if you want...if everyone just simply stopped criticising behind their keyboard without providing a possible solution, then everyone can benefit!!!!! Ian if I PM you, email you, or send a carrier pigeon to you all you get is my single perspective in complete isolation. For you to act on a sample size of n=1 would be wrong, unless of course n=1 happens to be you ...all 1's arent equal, its your $ that are being spent. As Ive been round here a while I would hope that people know I call a spade a spade and if Im wrong then so be it, I'll get told so, and survive the telling
turboplanner Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 lurkerville...no ones game to post anything................. Let's all relax. The post was started by CFI with an antagonistic theme, which wasn't true in any case, and all it's done is cause a whole lot of unnecessary anxiety. As he found, the grass over the fence at the sublime site wasn't green either, and he should have known better than to stir up trouble. Don't let him drag us all into it.
Admin Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 But Andy, how do you know that letting me know your opinion is just 1? You don't know the grand scheme of things...the holistic view that is being formed by other comments??? But one thing is for sure and that is not only do I get to hear about it but the site remains appealing to others instead the site being seen as users attacking something, whilst I formulate strategies etc to rectify issues. Why is it that many of you think that I am out to destroy something that I have put my whole heart and soul into, my blood, sweat and tears along with every cent I have? Sorry but you have really got it wrong. I am TRYING to keep EVERYONE happy and the site figures tell me if I am doing the right thing or not as well as comments that are made every time I speak to someone on the phone etc...grandstanding posts I will ignore as they are not constructive nor do they have the site's best interests at heart because they are made to get a response from others...like this thread and why this thread only serves to cut your nose off to spite your face...in my humble opinion. PMs, Phone Calls, Carrier Pigeons etc I will listen to, but only if I can carry on a conversation to get a better and more accurate understanding on things...after all, it works both ways then!
Admin Posted December 4, 2011 Posted December 4, 2011 Exactly TP...I have said that I am all ears so let's leave it at that...Thread Closed
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