Ultralights Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Just a quick video demonstrating when you should go-around! especially when you are too High and too fast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sabre Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Man.... I thought my landings were bad enough that was ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylon500 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Just goes to show, if you try to land too fast, you can even bounce a tri gear plane!! Arthur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TOSGcentral Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 LOL! You have to be really trying to bounce a nosewheel aircraft - this guy is obviously a natural achiever! Imagine what he could do with a taildragger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Longden Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 I thought at first he was studying MY landings... but then I read the latest comment that said he had jammed control surfaces.... Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Bouncing Tri-gear Pretty unhappy thing to happen to an aeroplane. After the first skip the A/C could have been held off (flared onto the ground) easily, as there appears to be enough runway remaining. Once the nosewheel contacts the ground fairly firmly, with the mains nowhere near it, the resultant pitch-up is considerable & apparently uncorrected, the successive nosewheel contacts are even heavier. This is not an unknown phenomena, and has been responsible for severe damage to some Mooneys and possibly others. The Fix ... Land on the rear wheels.. obviously to do this you have to be slower. N... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev25 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Pity I cannot understand whats being said Must have put some Kangaroo juice in the fuel tank. Or installed spring loaded Landing Gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 The general consensus is that the third strike of the nosewheel is the end, but that airplane is built really tough. Garuda weren't so lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultralights Posted April 13, 2007 Author Share Posted April 13, 2007 There is reports that the controls jammed on this one, but i think its more like the Pilot froze up! and held the controls in 1 position.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest danda Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Well after seeing that I don't feel so bad might give it a go again. Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest morgan000 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 i hope i dont end up landing like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pylon500 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 The secret is to bring the aircraft down to ground level, then try to float to the other end of the strip, DON'T LET IT LAND! The aeroplane will do the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Longden Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 Did that once in the Tecnam... ended up making a go-around as the bloody thing did not want to touch down..! Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Prometheus Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 If I can't get it down nicely on the first attempt I go around. On a recent flight (a week or so ago) the wind swung around whilst I was on final, and with the resulting tail wind I hovered above the runway for at least 50m. At that point, full power & flaps up... ".... going around". Needless to say I changed circuit direction after doing an "All Stations" broadcast to inform of new runway in use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Going round. I'm sure nobody's going to argue with that action. My view is ,if there is any doubt --Go round-- don't worry what others might say. A late go-round requires a fair bit of skill in some situations.( gusty cross winds ) so don't fly in conditions that are beyond what you are current to cope with. ( training & recency ). Getting back to the original video, quite obviously the elevators are inoperable, or as has been suggested, the pilot has frozen on the controls. Most likely the first, in which case ,without ground spoilers, landing with pitch trim only would be difficult. N... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy diamond Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 We've all done landings like that, I know when I did it in a PA28 it was just to ensure the structural integrity of the landing gear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest holmsy2000 Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 i would say his problem started the moment he balloned, you often see students do that, they baloon then push forward to recover which puts the nose in which causes a bounce and then it just keeps happening. very suprising to see it from such a large plane, you would expect the piot to be experienced enough to recover after the first one. brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poteroo Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Real Men Don't Go-Round ! This thread is on www.pprune.org check either the D&G forums or the main airline forum. Whilst it refers specifically to the GA-200 accident at Jogjakarta, there's a lesson in it for everyone. The wind does change, and we can get distracted on approach - but it's no loss of face, at least in Australia, to go-round. happy days, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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