Mohammad Sharier Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Hi folks, I am interested in recreational private licence. Can anyone tell me about the annual maintenance cost of an aircraft including parking fee.
Guest Kevin the Penniless Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Well, disregarding the cost of the plane and fuel, you're looking at hangar fees, insurance, RAAus fees, registration fees etc. Between $4500 and $5500 a year at a rough estimation. Most of the maintenance you can do yourself. That's based on my owning a jabiru.
Guest davidh10 Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Mine does not cost anywhere near that (excluding fuel). It is going to be very difficult for people to answer your question Mohammad, as it depends very greatly on what you fly and from where. Fees for hangarage vary significantly from one place to another and the size of the aircraft will be a factor in some places. ie. how many aircraft can fit in the hangar. Mechanical maintenance is also something that can vary widely depending on the type of aircraft and how capable you are at performing maintenance. If you rely on paying someone else to do the maintenance, then it will cost a lot more than if you do the routine maintenance yourself and just purchase the parts needed. Every different aircraft has its own maintenance regime, and people treat the costs differently. As an example, suppose you had to rebuild the engine after 2,000 hours, then do you count that as an annul cost amortised over the years it will take you to get to that many hours.... What id it was needed after 300 hours? Both these rebuild times are realistic for different engine types. The more information you can provide about your choices or thoughts, the more people will be able to relate their answers to your situation. Tell us about your flying experience to-date? It would be unusual for someone who hadn't already had some flying experience to be picking a type of aircraft, but we just don't know at the moment.
Guest Kevin the Penniless Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Mine does not cost anywhere near that (excluding fuel). It is going to be very difficult for people to answer your question Mohammad, as it depends very greatly on what you fly and from where. Fees for hangarage vary significantly from one place to another and the size of the aircraft will be a factor in some places. ie. how many aircraft can fit in the hangar.Mechanical maintenance is also something that can vary widely depending on the type of aircraft and how capable you are at performing maintenance. If you rely on paying someone else to do the maintenance, then it will cost a lot more than if you do the routine maintenance yourself and just purchase the parts needed. Every different aircraft has its own maintenance regime, and people treat the costs differently. As an example, suppose you had to rebuild the engine after 2,000 hours, then do you count that as an annul cost amortised over the years it will take you to get to that many hours.... What id it was needed after 300 hours? Both these rebuild times are realistic for different engine types. The more information you can provide about your choices or thoughts, the more people will be able to relate their answers to your situation. Tell us about your flying experience to-date? It would be unusual for someone who hadn't already had some flying experience to be picking a type of aircraft, but we just don't know at the moment. Do you have insurance over and above what RRAus provide. I insure my plane so if I prang it I get a new one, that costs $2400 a year, less as your hours build. My hangar fees are $25 a week, that seems about the going rate.
Guest davidh10 Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 No insurance apart from what RAA covers. ie. self insured. Hangarage is about $130 per month. . Haven't looked recently.. I just set it as a periodical bank transfer. A friend at a neighbouring aerodrome is paying $60 a week. RAA membership $185 p.a. Aircraft Registration $130 p.a. I do my own routine service, but if I need the engine to be seriously pulled apart, then I'll pay someone who does it all the time. I'm not expecting an overhaul will be needed for another 1000 hours, which is about 8 years at my current rate of flying. The wing will need to be replaced before then and a new SST wing is around $13K. If I replace the current Streak-3 wing, I'd get an SST. I may do it before needed if the right deal comes along.
kaz3g Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Hi folks,I am interested in recreational private licence. Can anyone tell me about the annual maintenance cost of an aircraft including parking fee. Hello Mohammad I am intrigued by your name... kaz
Mohammad Sharier Posted December 18, 2011 Author Posted December 18, 2011 Nice to hear from you guys. Thank you very much Kevin and David for your information. By the way Kaz why are U so curious about my name......
J170 Owner Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Nice to hear from you guys. Thank you very much Kevin and David for your information. By the way Kaz why are U so curious about my name...... My estimate is probably a bit high, but it is meant to cover all aspects of owning and maintaining your own aircraft, everything right down to the maps and oil.
Gnarly Gnu Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 OK this is confusing, since the recent site name change this question could refer to any sort of aircraft. GA? Experimental? LSA? Military? Twin? Amphib?
turboplanner Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 Nice to hear from you guys. Thank you very much Kevin and David for your information. By the way Kaz why are U so curious about my name...... Probably because the transliteration is Muhammad > Mohammed
dazza 38 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I am as well BTW its Sharia not sharier.Hey hey
Guest Kevin the Penniless Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 OK this is confusing, since the recent site name change this question could refer to any sort of aircraft. GA? Experimental? LSA? Military? Twin? Amphib? Hi, no, the original question specifically says 'recreational private licence'. I am curious as to who parks their plane out in the open. I used to fly Warriors that were left outside and the interiors were pretty dam frumpy....
David Isaac Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 RPL is PPL without the class 2 medical, it is not RAA. RPL is not above 1500Kg MTOW and is still LAME maintenance unless it is SAAA experimental. Maybe 'Mohammed' could clarify that for us.
Mohammad Sharier Posted December 19, 2011 Author Posted December 19, 2011 I don't have any idea the abbreviation that you are using. I am a novice in this field. I am going to have some lessons in 2012 to get private licence. I am living in bush so thinking not a bad idea to fly to main cities with personal aircraft...
dazza 38 Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Hi, no, the original question specifically says 'recreational private licence'. I am curious as to who parks their plane out in the open. I used to fly Warriors that were left outside and the interiors were pretty dam frumpy.... HI Kev, the Piper Archer I had, spent it life outside.(most of its life).Used to protect the interior with window covers.The silver ones that go on the inside.Its not perfect to have it outside,but it was OK.I wouldnt like to keep a LSA outside just because of the light weight maybe OK with full covers.I would be worried about storm and wind damage still.The Archer was at Archerfield.Had its own parking spot.Tie downs where/are realy good.
David Isaac Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 I don't have any idea the abbreviation that you are using. I am a novice in this field. I am going to have some lessons in 2012 to get private licence. I am living in bush so thinking not a bad idea to fly to main cities with personal aircraft... RPL means Recreational Pilot License which is a new category proposed to be introduced by CASA largely for those existing Private Pilot License (PPL) holders who can no longer attain a Class 2 medical required to maintain a PPL. Such RPL license holders can fly VH registered aircraft not exceeding 1500Kgs Maximum Takeoff Weight (MTOW). But these aircraft must be maintained by Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineers (LAMEs), unless the aircraft is experimental category under Sport Aircraft Association of Australia (SAAA) rules. Does that help?
Gnarly Gnu Posted December 19, 2011 Posted December 19, 2011 Hi, no, the original question specifically says 'recreational private licence'. I am curious as to who parks their plane out in the open. I used to fly Warriors that were left outside and the interiors were pretty dam frumpy.... You are right Kevin, I missed the 'recreational' part. Yeah UV and weather kill an aircraft in Australia. With tensioned fabric structures quite cheap there is no good reason to leave a valuable aircraft uncovered long term. Even a slip-on cover would help a lot (I forget the name of them). Mohammad S if you search the forum you will find accurate pricing on Jabiru ownership as an indication. Hangarage / tie down costs are going to be quite location variable; most recommended to store an aircraft covered where possible.
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