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"If weather is causing you to make non-standard turns at an aerodrome, then that's a very good reason not to have taken off in the first place."

 

Mr Scriven said student pilots at Ardmore had stayed on the ground that day due to the weather conditions."

 

Says it all really.

 

 

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Mmm.. with a name like Roger Ralph Dickie.. an incidaent waiting to happen?

 

"I say.. that takeoff was a bit Dickie, Roger.. "

 

 

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Doesn't say whether he's a serial offender - but I'll bet he's got form. Car, plane or boat - some people seem to have an attitude that neither the law, nor common sense, apply to them. In an ideal world, you could get online and check any prospective hirers history. There are quite a few Aussie pilots whose record of non-reporting of incidents such as heavy landings, exceeding Vne, and exceeding Va in severe turbulence, would be very, very useful in deciding whether to hire out an aircraft to them.

 

Perhaps I'm being a bit uncharitable, but having seen several damaged aircraft in the workshop, which were returned as 'nil to report' on the M/R, I'm cautious about hiring out to unknowns.

 

happy days,

 

 

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You're not uncharitable. The sooner these types are doing something else for a hobby, the better off we will be. Who want's to fly a plane that has been rendered unsafe by a previous pilot and hasn't notified it? Nev

 

 

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Going back to the original incident, that's almost a perfect example of why accidents AFTER training exceed accidents during training.

 

During training the student is obeying the logical safety standards and procedures, but afterwards starts a little shortcut here, like a 60 deg turn when 30 deg would have looked just as good, and a little shortcut there, like not working out a flight plan with fuel burn, W&B etc., and it gradually builds to something like this case.

 

Interesting that a crash this year where the pilot phoned a member of the passenger's family for a weather at destination check, and got a tragic erroneous summation, where he should have phoned a qualified meteorologist killed three people and was an exact copy of the crash in which singer Patsy Cline was killed when her manager made a phone call to a friend at the destination, also an amateur, and was given information which no meteoroloist or experienced pilot would have given.

 

Seven people, including the three world class singers killed by the tiniest of deviations from procedure.

 

 

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