Guest alexen Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/plane-crash-on-fraser-island-20120104-1pk9d.html Anyone know more details? Wondering if its one of the scenic flight planes that take off/land on the beach.
David Isaac Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Right about now, considering the Lake Hume accident, apart from there being no injuries in this accident, the best thing about this accident is that it was NOT an Ultralight with RAA rego.
facthunter Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Numbers appearing on a part of the plane doesn't necessarily mean it is registered. Nev 1
kaz3g Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Sounds like it could be an airvan from air fraser, they're the only ones with permission to use the beach on Fraser http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/story/2012/01/04/plane-crash-lands-fraser-island/
Tomo Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Looked mighty like a Cessna on the news, but bit hard to tell as it was covered with tarps
alf jessup Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Jeez Tommo, When i first heard about it i thought it may have been you, but at 22 the pilot was a oldie compared to you. Alf 1
Tomo Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Thanks Alf! But certainly not me as someone has to work!! ahaha!
djpacro Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 Looked mighty like a Cessna on the news, but bit hard to tell as it was covered with tarps I dunno about that, the shape of the tarp looked more like a Decathlon to me.
Tomo Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 I dunno about that, the shape of the tarp looked more like a Decathlon to me. With a noswheel...? Pull the other leg it plays jingle bells....
youngster Posted January 4, 2012 Posted January 4, 2012 The website for Air Fraser Island, the company involved, says it operates GA8 Airvans. So I suspect it was an Airvan.
ave8rr Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Latest update and photo http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/story/2012/01/05/four-escape-as-plane-crashes/ Looks like a C182?
Tomo Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 It's nice to know I can still tell a Cessna from a Cessna! Lol
turboplanner Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Yeah but you didn't tell us what model it was. 1
Bubbleboy Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 Yeah but you didn't tell us what model it was. Indian maybe?...but then what would I know...
djpacro Posted January 5, 2012 Posted January 5, 2012 ,,, hehehe and DP you silly bugger,,,,who would ruin a Decathlon by putting a training wheel on it!!! No accounting for tastes, I saw a taildragger classic with a nose-wheel today - not a problem, there can be very good reasons for choosing one. In fact, if some-one threw a tarp over it would look just like a 172.And .... Tomo is right as usual. I see now, my mistake, it has a rear window so couldn't have been a Decathlon. 2
Tomo Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 No accounting for tastes, I saw a taildragger classic with a nose-wheel today - not a problem, there can be very good reasons for choosing one. In fact, if some-one threw a tarp over it would look just like a 172.And .... Tomo is right as usual. I see now, my mistake, it has a rear window so couldn't have been a Decathlon. You're too kind DJ
facthunter Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 Tomo, No he isn't too kind. You make very reasoned and carefully researched responses, which stand on their own merit. I can understand your modesty, but their are times when you should accept acknowledgement of how well you do things. You are a bit of a success story you know . Nev 2
Guest Maj Millard Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 I've yet to see a four seat decathlon ! Putting a C172 on a beach in the best of conditions would be a bit risky anyway, they are just not well suited, as they tend to come down a bit hard on the nose wheel on occasions. The 206 however which generally are fitted with a bigger (fatter ) tyre, have more effective flap, and can and are operated off sand more succesfully on regular occasions..If this was an after take-off engine failure as suggested, then I think the pilot may be excused by the fact that he may not have had a lot of time available to either set up for a slow sand landing, and/or to'pick his sand'..............................................Maj...
pete8862 Posted January 6, 2012 Posted January 6, 2012 I have just got home from Fraser, the pilot landed at Orchard Beach airstip at about 7.45 that morning while I was waiting for the shop to open, I talked to him for about 1/4 hour & checked out the plane. He was picking up three passengers to go back to Hervey Bay & then heading back to the beach for joy flights. Thats all I have. Pete
Tomo Posted January 7, 2012 Posted January 7, 2012 Tomo, No he isn't too kind. You make very reasoned and carefully researched responses, which stand on their own merit. I can understand your modesty, but their are times when you should accept acknowledgement of how well you do things. You are a bit of a success story you know . Nev Thanks Nev, very encouraging that you say that, sometimes you do wonder if it's worth the effort. 1
poteroo Posted January 8, 2012 Posted January 8, 2012 I've yet to see a four seat decathlon ! Putting a C172 on a beach in the best of conditions would be a bit risky anyway, they are just not well suited, as they tend to come down a bit hard on the nose wheel on occasions. The 206 however which generally are fitted with a bigger (fatter ) tyre, have more effective flap, and can and are operated off sand more succesfully on regular occasions..If this was an after take-off engine failure as suggested, then I think the pilot may be excused by the fact that he may not have had a lot of time available to either set up for a slow sand landing, and/or to'pick his sand'..............................................Maj... Yes, that 172 appears to have the standard 6.00 x 6 mainwheel tyres, and these don't give you much floatation at 'normal' pressures. Now if the aircraft had been configured with 8.00 tyres, run at much lower pressures, plus a larger nosewheel size, eg 6.00 x - it might not have dug in. For soft surface ops, it helps to have 180HP in a 172 as well. A STOL modification,(eg, Horton), to the wings also helps no end, and it's not that expensive to fit. Maj is right about the time available to do the FL. It seems to take you ages as the pilot, because everything seems surreal - but it's often so fast the pax don't know what's happened. Ideally you'd want more weight in the rear baggage area.....but I guess the front pax wasn't keen to shift over there during the flare!! happy days,
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