Chris Tarran Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 During my training mag checks (and controls full and free) were taught as part of the pre-taxi checklist along with others things like fuses, electric fuel pump check, switch setttings etc. They were also part of the shut down checklist and consequently I do them every time. If they are in the checklists there is a very good reason for them. If you don't get a rev drop when testing mags then its probably faulty and why anyone one would take off with a faulty mag escapes me. Same for controls. The consequences of your engine stopping in your car are merely inconvenient, in an aircraft they are potentially fatal. My two cents. Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Tarran Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 In the Tecnam Sierra I trained in run up mag check was at 4000, shut down was 3000. It never backfired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motzartmerv Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 A dead cut check is a good idea aswel. With the control check, I prefer to do it as your lined up. If things aren't right a wind gusts or bouncy (grass) runways or taxiways may dislodge something. Loose articles are more likely to move about and foul linkages etc while your bouncing around on the ground. Just an Idea, its saved me once in the before mentioned control binding in a Gazelle. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shafs64 Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share Posted May 7, 2012 paranoid is good helps keep pilots alive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben87r Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 long time to be dead wishing you were paranoid....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 They will often backfire after a mag cut if you put the switches back on. Any engine can do it. You fill the muffler with combustible gas and then you ignite it by having the engine run again. It's not really a backfire it's a little explosion in the muffler ( that could split it, if it's weak, but is not likely to harm the motor other wise). A backfire is when the fuel in the inlet side explodes due to a lean mixture stuck valve etc Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Ah, that brings back memories of my old hoon days FH, turn the key off for a couple of seconds as I drove past the Sergeant's house, and it went off like a shotgun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 You did that too!. What a bad man you are. I had the exhaust pipe coming out on the left in front of the rear wheel. You could light up the footpath. ( now you'll think I'm awful). Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motzartmerv Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Ahhh. Can just see it now, tubz and nev cruising the streets terrorizing the locals, bell bottoms , 8 track stereos blarring, and torana's lighting up the streets as old ladies dived for cover...hehehe. made my day that has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pudestcon Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Ahhh. Can just see it now, tubz and nev cruising the streets terrorizing the locals, bell bottoms , 8 track stereos blarring, and torana's lighting up the streets as old ladies dived for cover...hehehe. made my day that has. That's too modern for those guys motz - if they stalled their cars it was get out the crank handle. lol Pud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandit12 Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I think that when Turbs and Nev were up to their hooliganisms, the humble Torana was but a twinkle in the eye of Holden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernsey Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Didn't they used to fly aircraft that had a starter crank handle? Alan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Ah, that brings back memories of my old hoon days FH, turn the key off for a couple of seconds as I drove past the Sergeant's house, and it went off like a shotgun! Young (then) friend of mine used to often borrow his grandpa's HK Holden and almost equally as often the muffler would fail for some mysterious reason. Grandpa got tired of these crappy standard mufflers that would never last long and finally made up his own - fabricated from 1/4" plate.... what a legend, it was indestructible then! Poor kids these days, miss out on so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 or in Nev's case, the shovel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Wasn't steam driven. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Yes that's correct, but it did leave a deposit when it was stationary, and often left a stain on the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 The baker delivery had one of those grass burners. I'm only a horse person after I've been talking too much. Thread drift....? ) Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motzartmerv Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Yes, mag checks... Not Nag checks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 That's very Punny. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazda Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Yes, I do runups. If the engine is warm it takes less than a minute and after taxi at least you can detect plug fouling and do something about it. Not doing it is just being lazy. With some aircraft you can do run ups on taxi, it is up to the operator as to what they prefer. Some aircraft can't run up on taxi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazda Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I also do nag checks because getting on without checking the girth can be embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I'm not coming in on that. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I've done that too, finished flat on my back. She was OK though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motzartmerv Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 I used to do a walk around on any nag before I jumped on.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted May 7, 2012 Share Posted May 7, 2012 Some people hate you doing dead cut checks... you learn these things after flying with a few different instructors and CFI's over time. I play it safe these days and ask before doing something. NO one ever does things the same... quite remarkable really. By the way, those that don't fly aircraft with mixture control can disregard the whole dead cut thing! As you do it every time you turn the thing off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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