kgwilson Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 A good example of what wheelbarrowing will do. The pilot actually touches down on the main wheels first but after the bounce pushes the nose into the runway... eight times until the inevitable happens. All he had to do was hold the yoke back & let it settle. PA28s virtually land themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAgNeToDrOp Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 woops, get-down-itis?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Mooneys do it even better. In this example it results in pitch effect predominantly but in a crosswind situation the aircraft has sideloads as well, hence the wheelbarrow effect. All he had to do was hold off till the plane was ready to settle on the mains. Was the runway too short or was there a tailwind? In a tailwind landing it is common to pick up extra airspeed near the ground, and that could have been the situation here. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 A Cherokee is one of the most docile aircraft you'll ever find, but still flies and lands to the laws of kinetic energy like your average tennis ball. I'm sure this would have been a very early stage student, maybe first or second solo, but it does provide a lesson for all of us to put in our refresher locker.....that the dynamics of a nose wheel first, or nose over due to pointing your aircraft at the landing point (advocated by some here), or going to sleep are a magnification best fixed by a go round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 We had this video on here before a while back.I was very harsh in regards to the way the pilot "Flew " the aircraft . There is something seriously lacking . If it was a student , then that is OK.These things happen.If a licenced pilot.Something is realy wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz3g Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Mooneys do it even better. In this example it results in pitch effect predominantly but in a crosswind situation the aircraft has sideloads as well, hence the wheelbarrow effect. All he had to do was hold off till the plane was ready to settle on the mains. Was the runway too short or was there a tailwind? In a tailwind landing it is common to pick up extra airspeed near the ground, and that could have been the situation here. Nev I agree, Nev. the dust seems to be indicating a rear quartering wind from the starboard side. The pilot also seems to have a lot of speed on and hasn't really flared at all. Kaz Kaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben87r Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 soon as it started to go wrong, power on and go around wouldnt have hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted June 8, 2012 Author Share Posted June 8, 2012 Yep quartering tail wind for sure now that I look at it again. Bugger all of a flare but pulling the yoke back after the bounce & holding it would still have got it down OK. There was plenty of runway left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Moore Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Not so cheap conversation to an RG aircraft! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Oops, to do that in a Warrior you'd have to be pretty skilled!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Moore Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Let's hire a warrior Tomo and see if were as good as him! I'm game if you are!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 A case of GA being a lot more expensive than RA.............................................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted June 8, 2012 Share Posted June 8, 2012 Just read Pilot Notes over a few months and you'll see a lot of these. Starts with bad instructing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz3g Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Just read Pilot Notes over a few months and you'll see a lot of these.Starts with bad instructing And ends in tears. kaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Moore Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 And ends in tears.kaz And a big bill that makes L.A.M.E happy!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motzartmerv Posted June 9, 2012 Share Posted June 9, 2012 Not a student, theres 2 in the front..;) Pause it at 6 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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