Brumby 610

[stevron]

Well, it's arrived, the Brumby 610 is in the hanger, i flew it home on Friday, the 610 is very stable and has plenty of power. the cabin is comfortable with good leg room, vision is very good for tall people , very small rudder inputs are required to keep it flying straight and level, I think this plane would suit pilots of varied experience.

 

 

[dazza 38]

Nice Stevron. I hope you alot have fun with your ride.

 

 

[Vev]

Wonderful to hear you have your new toy ... I think Brumby have a winner with this AC.

 

What about a couple of pic?

 

Cheers

 

Vev

 

 

[Motif]

Congratulations Steve and I'm really glad you are now enjoying your new high wing Brumby. It's a lovely aircraft and the more you get to know it the more you will love it. You also have the distinction of being the owner of the first Australian made aircraft powered with the new Lycoming O-233 engine.

 

Good flying,

 

Ross

 

 

[pylon500]

first Australian made aircraft powered with the new Lycoming O-233 engine

Well actually the first 'Production' aircraft with an 0-233, there's been a 200 series Jab taildragger flying around up here for about 6 months.

 

Arthur.

 

 

[Motif]

I stand corrected Arthur. Sorry about that.

 

I guess the point I was trying to make was that Brumby Aircraft will equip their new off the production line aeroplanes with a Lycoming O-233 as a matter of course. Try to get a new, off the production line Jabiru with an O-233 engine.

 

You might be interested to know that P.G. Aviation is now offering a firewall forward kit to Jabiru owners who want to fit either the Rotax or Lycoming engines in their Jabirus.

 

 

[Guest Howard Hughes]

Well actually the first 'Production' aircraft with an 0-233, there's been a 200 series Jab taildragger flying around up here for about 6 months.

That Jab looks like a sports car!

 

 

[pylon500]

There is a connection here, that 233 now in the Jab, was used by the Goards to make up the mounts and cowls for the Brumby (so I'm told...)

 

That Jab looks like a sports car!

It's an impressive looking Jab, and gets along pretty well, unfortunately it still only handles like a Jab.

 

 

[jetjr]

What are the performance specs on the Jab?

 

 

[Brumby Aircraft]

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Arthur.

This is not a production aircraft as you can see by the rego its is a 19 kit aircraft that has been modified . A production aircraft is and aircraft that is certified through the manufacture and this is definately not . Even the engine was supples through Brumby for that aircraft .

[pylon500]

Uhm?, the implication of my

 

first 'Production'

comment, is to say the above mentioned Brumby is the first production Ultralight, just not the first Ultralight overall, to be fitted with the -233.Sorry if I confused...

 

 

[alf jessup]

Congratulations stevron,

 

Awesome feeling bringing home a new girlfriend as I only just found out myself.

 

Cheers

 

Alf

 

 

[poteroo]

Well, it's arrived, the Brumby 610 is in the hanger, i flew it home on Friday, the 610 is very stable and has plenty of power. the cabin is comfortable with good leg room, vision is very good for tall people , very small rudder inputs are required to keep it flying straight and level, I think this plane would suit pilots of varied experience.

Stevron,

 

Now that you've flown a few hours on the 610, and presumably kept a few notes on performance - care to inform us about how things are going?

 

Be most interested in your power settings for TAS achieved, at various altitudes, and the fuel burn achieved. Also, what ROC you're getting with a full load on an extended climb at full power.

 

thanks,

 

 

[stevron]

The 610 has been a learning curve for me , I am yet to fly in carm air . I can say that the 610 handles the rough very well . 20 LTS per hour roughly average. I am having trouble with my head sets, my new Zulu 2 has muffled feed back when I speak. The other head set is a 3 yr old Bose and may be they are not matched. Every one can hear me ok, but all I hear is rubbish. The auto pilot swings me around a bit. There's no optimum range on the gauges so when your doing your Tees and pees are in the green, there is no green, just numbers. The mixture cable is on the wrong side of the throttle , this takes a moment to get use to. The luggage space is good, the sunvisor s are great, interior is well laid out and very comfortable , plenty of room, yoke is good though a little heavy, it trims up beautifully, it is a little slower than I had hoped, though I am still running it in, it holds good fuel , the doors are great, seating needs to be tailored to suit the user as mine was a bit low. The next model may be refined in the engine bay access door, as it is a little hard To check the oil. It needs a bigger spinner as there is a large flat surface behind the small spinner ( improved air speed ) , I am awaiting some refinements to be fitted to the spars and wheel fairings,(improved air speed). All in all its the best plane I have ever owned

 

 

[Kyle Communications]

The intercom shouldn't care what headset you have within most cases. Either your Zulu 2 have a fault or the intercom is faulty. Have you swapped the Bose with the Zulu's into the pilot sockets?....this will tell you whether it is the headset or the intercom if the Bose sound fine then the Zulu is faulty

 

 

[stevron]

The Bose set is fine, I have no need to continually adjust the VOX either . The zulu2 has me constantly adjusting the VOX so I can hear anything . The Zulu 2 is far more comfortable to wear and lets less noise past the ear cups than the Bose. Is there any one else with the same problem or am I the only one.

 

 

[poteroo]

The 610 has been a learning curve for me , I am yet to fly in carm air . I can say that the 610 handles the rough very well . 20 LTS per hour roughly average. I am having trouble with my head sets, my new Zulu 2 has muffled feed back when I speak. The other head set is a 3 yr old Bose and may be they are not matched. Every one can hear me ok, but all I hear is rubbish. The auto pilot swings me around a bit. There's no optimum range on the gauges so when your doing your Tees and pees are in the green, there is no green, just numbers. The mixture cable is on the wrong side of the throttle , this takes a moment to get use to. The luggage space is good, the sunvisor s are great, interior is well laid out and very comfortable , plenty of room, yoke is good though a little heavy, it trims up beautifully, it is a little slower than I had hoped, though I am still running it in, it holds good fuel , the doors are great, seating needs to be tailored to suit the user as mine was a bit low. The next model may be refined in the engine bay access door, as it is a little hard To check the oil. It needs a bigger spinner as there is a large flat surface behind the small spinner ( improved air speed ) , I am awaiting some refinements to be fitted to the spars and wheel fairings,(improved air speed). All in all its the best plane I have ever owned

It would have been well and truly 'run in' after the 1st 5 hrs @ 75% or better power settings. Reckon you needn't be thinking about babying the engine at all. Been flying the Lycoming 0-235,(the 'heavier' parent of your 0-233), ever since the 1st C152 came out in 1978 - and they need to be kept running not under 65% power if you want to avoid future problems. 20 lph sounds a bit low for that engine - if you are running it about 2400 rpm and leaning only to just on the rich side of peak rpm. If you have an EGT in the Dynon then you'll be able to set best power or best economy mixture a lot easier and accurately..

 

I have gone thru a list of small changes for Phil which will rectify those items you've listed, plus others.

 

I might be in Bendigo around March 26/27 next year in my GRDC role, and look forward to seeing how both yous and Andrews units are going.

 

happy days,

 

 

[andrew1975]

Poteroo, what role do you do with the GRDC? Are you on the western panel ?

 

Andrew

 

 

[poteroo]

Western Panel since 2005 - and have been in the crop protection portfolio all of this time. Finish up on 30/6/13 and this will complete my ag sci career of 46 years. Can then get on with being a fuller time professional pilot.

 

happy days,

 

 

[Kyle Communications]

The Bose set is fine, I have no need to continually adjust the VOX either . The zulu2 has me constantly adjusting the VOX so I can hear anything . The Zulu 2 is far more comfortable to wear and lets less noise past the ear cups than the Bose. Is there any one else with the same problem or am I the only one.

Maybe your zulu2 have a issue can you borrow a set to try ?..if you were up this way I would let you have one of mine to try....it would be unusual but I think the zulu2 could be faulty. The service agents are out at archerfield here in brisbane I have heard they turn them around very quickly...they replace the board or replace the whole headset

 

 

[andrew1975]

Thanks Poteroo,

 

GRDC sponsored my Nuffield scholarship a few years back. Make sure you give me a call when your over this way. Andrew

 

 

[cooperplace]

Congratulations Steve and I'm really glad you are now enjoying your new high wing Brumby. It's a lovely aircraft and the more you get to know it the more you will love it. You also have the distinction of being the owner of the first Australian made aircraft powered with the new Lycoming O-233 engine.Good flying,

Ross

can the O-233 engine model be RAA registered?

 

 

[stevron]

my 610 is RAA registered and is doing a great job , i really enjoy flying it.

 

 

[cooperplace]

my 610 is RAA registered and is doing a great job , i really enjoy flying it.

can I ask how much more the 610 cost than a rotax, and how thirsty is it?

thanks

 

 

[stevron]

My plane is doing a little over 20 LTS per hour average , I do not know the price difference between the 2. Brumbys are Much cheaper than tecnam and have a very big cockpit area compare d to others.