Fuelling a high wing

[stevron]

Is there any good ways to fuel a high wing other than jerrys and a funnel? This seems dangerous

 

 

[David Isaac]

Yes, if the wing skin is strong enough, sit the jerry on the skin and use a self priming siphon hose.

 

 

[Aldo]

Stevron

 

I purchased an electric drum pump cost me about $600.00 good for mogas and avgas comes with a meter (in lts) makes it real easy.

 

 

[Vev]

If I need to fill out of a container, I have a bunch of 10lt containers which makes it much easier to manage on a high wing.

 

Cheers

 

Vev

 

 

[stevron]

Thanks, the transfer pump would be easy , is it readily available ?

 

 

[Aldo]

Yes they are, I will find the manufacturer/supplier tomorrow and let you know. I purchased mine through CRT (Country Rural Traders).

 

 

[Methusala]

G'day, A little "steam driven" perhaps, but I use a Bosch EFI fuel pump from a wrecked motorbike. I have fitted a long lead and an auto cigarette lighter plug. Does the trick if a little slow. Don

 

 

[cscotthendry]

Another way is to make a plug for the usual 20L plastic jerry can which has two pipes going through the plug. One pipe is connected to one of those pumps that you use to blow up inflatable mattresses. The other pipe is attached to a length of fuel line long enough to reach the tank opening. Then you pressurise the jerry can with the pump and the fuel flows out the fuel line into the tank. It has the advantage that no electrical stuff is used near fuel.

 

 

[Gentreau]

Look up Polarn fuel transfer pumps. Air pressure, fits on standard jerry-cans, capable of transferring 20ltrs in about a minute.

 

Example here:

 

http://www.advantage-motorsport.co.uk/polarn-quick-pump.html

 

 

[jetjr]

Macnaught do hand driven drum pumps, very few makers will Ok petrol and Avgas. http://www.macnaught.com.au/shop/item/rapidflo.

 

Pretty common with Air Ag guys and Heli teams working from remote strips.

 

I have a Rapidflo with filter and meter Id sell, havent used it for a few years but its as new

 

Using any other type of electric setup can be highly dangerous as these motors spark internally and vapours are everywhere.

 

There are a few on Aircraft Spruce which might be more what your looking for.

 

If using containers or drums buy a funnel filter to keep contamination down.

 

 

[Methusala]

I use a dedicated efi pump to avoid any danger of arcing. I recall some discussion of pressurising fuel containers with air leading to the danger of the fuel container bursting. Of course a dedicated refueling rig should be the safest but some may be put off by high costs. Don

 

 

[Aldo]

Stevron

 

The pump is a Grayco "Blue Devil" they are rated for the zone (i.e. hazardous area). I have pumped about 25,000 litres through mine (avgas & mogas) without any issues. A couple of photos below including the name plate.

 

 

 

 

[facthunter]

A had a hand high volume pump with a filter incorporated in the pick up (inlet) end, which fitted into a jerry can. No electricity involved. If you design the outlet pipe correctly the end will stay in the wing fuel filler fitting. It's too big to take it with you, but I usually found bowsers, en route. Nev

 

 

[Guest Howard Hughes]

Don't you have someone who fills it for you?

 

 

[Blueadventures]

If I need to fill out of a container, I have a bunch of 10lt containers which makes it much easier to manage on a high wing.Cheers

 

Vev

I agree. I have one 10 liter container. Fill the 10 liter from the 20 liter containers then you only have 10 liter weights. A bit slower but better to manage the lift and pouring procedure.

Cheers

 

Mike

 

 

[flyerme]

I use a $40 battery operated jerry can pump from super cheap auto..leave the 20ltr jerry on the ground stick the pump in and the hose in the funnel(I made a hook so I dont have to hold the hose in the funnel) switch on and a couple mins later job done..no back work,well I can lift it with a severe disc buldge so was either that or my 40kg missus would have to lift it ..yep 1/2 her body weight...

 

 

[stevron]

Macnaught do hand driven drum pumps, very few makers will Ok petrol and Avgas. http://www.macnaught.com.au/shop/item/rapidflo.Pretty common with Air Ag guys and Heli teams working from remote strips.

I have a Rapidflo with filter and meter Id sell, havent used it for a few years but its as new

 

Using any other type of electric setup can be highly dangerous as these motors spark internally and vapours are everywhere.

 

There are a few on Aircraft Spruce which might be more what your looking for.

 

If using containers or drums buy a funnel filter to keep contamination down.

I would like to see some more info or photos and of cause costs. Email me on , [email protected] , thanks Stevron

 

 

[boingk]

Had an idea!

 

Get a homebrew vat, they are airtight from seals top and bottom. Hold 20L.

 

Put a car tyre valve in the top where the airlock usually sits, and attach a hose to the bottom held inplace with screw-turn clamp.

 

Connect an air pump to the air valve up top and there you go... fuel pump!

 

Cheers - boingk

 

 

[Guernsey]

Had an idea!Get a homebrew vat, they are airtight from seals top and bottom. Hold 20L.

 

Put a car tyre valve in the top where the airlock usually sits, and attach a hose to the bottom held inplace with screw-turn clamp.

 

Connect an air pump to the air valve up top and there you go... fuel pump!

 

Cheers - boingk

Sounds good to me, what fuel do you use......98 octane home brew?

 

Alan.

 

 

[boingk]

Sounds good to me, what fuel do you use......98 octane home brew? Alan.

Ha! Wouldn't it be nice?

 

Fuel for the Minicab is 95 mogas with valvelube additive 1.5ml/litre added on filling. Standard books rate the A65-8 for 75 octane and recommend 80 octane or higher... and I have to run additive even with 100LL so why bother paying an extra $1 a litre for it? So far running fine on 95, even the last owner recommended it as it has less valvestick and easier starting.

 

Cheers - boingk

 

 

[corvairkr]

This looks pretty handy

 

 

 

[Gentreau]

This looks pretty handy

Still needs an external air source, the Polarn works the same way but has the airr pump built in.

 

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