J170 Owner Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Have a read of this.... http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/royal-flying-doctor-service-pilot-passed-out-at-controls-later-tests-positive-for-drugs/story-fndo1qgd-1226520737157 If this story is true the pilot should be named and shamed and given a length of rope and a chair. I simply cannot believe that somebody would be so stupid. (Then again, maybe it's normal and I'm too old to understand?) 1
Sapphire Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 I saw a RFD plane land downwind with plenty of moans and groans from observers.
biggles Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Have a read of this....http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/royal-flying-doctor-service-pilot-passed-out-at-controls-later-tests-positive-for-drugs/story-fndo1qgd-1226520737157 If this story is true the pilot should be named and shamed and given a length of rope and a chair. I simply cannot believe that somebody would be so stupid. (Then again, maybe it's normal and I'm too old to understand?) He has probably done immeasurable damage to the confidence of the flying public and particularly to the other RFDS pilots , who are generally held in high regard by the Australian people . An act of gross stupidity , not to mention the end of a sought after flying career. Bob 2
eightyknots Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 Have a read of this....http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/royal-flying-doctor-service-pilot-passed-out-at-controls-later-tests-positive-for-drugs/story-fndo1qgd-1226520737157 If this story is true the pilot should be named and shamed... . I simply cannot believe that somebody would be so stupid. (Then again, maybe it's normal and I'm too old to understand?) I agree! This kind of thing is reprehensible! ...especially for a lifesaving operation such as the RFDS. meth how do you know? 1
fly_tornado Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 other news story quoted it as meth. meth makes smart people do stupid things 1
motzartmerv Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 how do you know? It said so in the article. The poor nurse having to wake him. Imagine the thoughts going through her head when she realized he was out of it. I doubt it will do much damage to the good name of the RFDS. Congrats to them for their quick and decisive actions. 1
eightyknots Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 It said so in the article.The poor nurse having to wake him. Imagine the thoughts going through her head when she realized he was out of it. I doubt it will do much damage to the good name of the RFDS. Congrats to them for their quick and decisive actions. Meth: An alcohol-based solvent (methylated spirits), which can be used for: burning, e.g. in small stoves and lamps, often utilised for camping purposes; and, cleaning, e.g. 'indelible' or 'permanent' markers on hard surfaces. The article spoke about methamphetamine, an entirely different substance. I don't suggest you try any household cleaning or burning with that! That nurse would have to put all her faith in the auto pilot, hoping that this would keep going long enough until the pilot woke up. No wonder that stress leave was given.
Sapphire Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 MM said: Meth: An alcohol-based solvent (methylated spirits), which can be used for: burning, e.g. in small stoves and lamps, often utilised for camping purposes Maybe he was just cold.
facthunter Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Metho is the correct word for it. It is mixed with a substance to make it taste BAD and it is alcohol. "Meth" is short for methanphetamine ? (spelling)... what is being talked about here.. Serious event. Shows how bad it gets when you are on this stuff. Some companies have rehab programs. Nev
motzartmerv Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Ive been thinking. I hope this isn't a case of the media beating up on this guy. I really do have trouble believing a professional pilot, let alone one that has achieved the levels required for this job, to be a "meth" user. I have had a little exposure to people under the influence of various recreational drugs (in a professional role) and 'meth' is no toy drug that you can take or leave. It is highly highly addictive and argue that anyone under the influence of the drug would find it incredibly difficult to get a king air airborne in airspace. There are several prescription medications that will show up a "positive" for drugs such as Meth, speed, etc as they are all based on similar molecules. A study was done (albeit by mythbusters) where a priest tested positive for heroin use at moderate to high (addict) levels after eating 2 poppy seed buns. This poor guy may have been sick, fallen asleep at the wheel (which is much more common than you may think) and then tested positive because of the drugs he was taking for his illness. If however he was under the influence of 'meth" then i stand by my earlier comments. PS. Meth is not metho.. Metho is metho..;) 1
dazza 38 Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Talking about metho. I was in a Mitre 10 & a alcoholic came in & said to the shop assistant. "You wouldn't have a cold bottle of metho would yah".
fly_tornado Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Is it schoolie's week already? they are always bribing old drunks to buy them booze.
Guest SAJabiruflyer Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Time to get rid of the CEO, the Tech Manager and the Board of RFDS and start another organisation.
eightyknots Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Time to get rid of the CEO, the Tech Manager and the Board of RFDS and start another organisation. Only if 10% of the RFDS patients petition the Board to do so. 1
Guest SAJabiruflyer Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Only if 10% of the RFDS patients petition the Board to do so.
Guest john Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Some years ago at Bundaberg Qld, the aeriel ambulance twin engined Cessna was required to transfer a patient to Brisbane. On board the plane was the solo pilot, the patient, the nurse, & the doctor who was also a qualified private pilot. The weather conditions at the time were not good as Bundaberg was covered in a thick fog to ground level, however the pilot decided to take off in the fog. After the plane had just got airborne & when at the end of the runway a fire started in 1 of the engines which quickly spread into the cabin near where the Doctor was seated. The plane then crashed into regrowth & bush a short distance near the southern end of the runway & the only surviving person in the plane was the Doctor. All the other people in the plane were killed. It just goes to show you that being a Pilot , whether commercial or private, is a privelege which also require responsibile decision making .
Gentreau Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Be careful jumping to conclusions and hanging the guy before he has a chance to defend himself. The RFDS only did what they were legally obliged to do, there may be extenuating circumstances. If you research just a little about Methamphetamine you will discover that it is used in low doses in certain legal medicines such as nose sprays. I think the pilot should have his say before you all hang draw and quarter him. 4
motzartmerv Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 The weather conditions at the time were not good as Bundaberg was covered in a thick fog to ground level, however the pilot decided to take off in the fog. After the plane had just got airborne & when at the end of the runway a fire started in 1 of the engines which quickly spread into the cabin near where the Doctor was seated. Fog caused the engine fire?
Sapphire Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Maybe the fog was so thick he couldn't see the plane to do a preflight [only relationship I can see] 1
Gentreau Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Or the fog limited his options for the emergency landing ... .
Sapphire Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Or the fog limited his options for the emergency landing .... That would be very real. Even a thin whisp of fog against a low sun makes you IFR
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