motzartmerv Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Thought id post this vid here pre-emptivly. He will be here soon. Fast forward to bout 2.20 [media=liveleak]20a_1355531018[/media] 3
Admin Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Motz, you really need to view the site home page more often ...it has been on there since yesterday
motzartmerv Posted December 17, 2012 Author Posted December 17, 2012 Hahaha...ok, just remove this thread if you like Ian..sorry
Bandit12 Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 I watched it in the news thing on the home page....awesome display but only a heart beat away from meeting his maker.
Admin Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 Hahaha...ok, just remove this thread if you like Ian..sorry That's ok Motz...I know that what I put on the home page often gets circulated around the industry as I often get emails back to me on things I put there a few days later...not saying that's how you got it but it does happen
Sapphire Posted December 17, 2012 Posted December 17, 2012 He looks like a macho guy who does macho things.
davebutler Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 And here is the same aircraft taken from the ground [media=liveleak]d7d_1355730953[/media]
ayavner Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 well.. .its bloody impressive... but not sure it makes it "right" 1
ayavner Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 not really sure to be honest, at the very least it looks like a move that would take every other aircraft that may be in the circuit completely unawares. not to mention a gust or windshear away from setting that small foresty bit aflame... Legal? dunno... irresponsible? Most likely, but full context is needed - maybe it was part of a display.
Head in the clouds Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Driving down the road and someone in front is going 5km/hr too slow they'll be called a moron, if someone overtakes they'll be called a maniac, if someone gets really practiced and familiar with his craft and flies it more impressively than others he's dangerous and if someone flies once a month and does really large and conservative circuits because he's way behind the aircraft then he'll be called sensible and safe... I can't see what could be legally wrong with it provided his radio calls were correct, low and tight circuits are permitted, there are no speed requirements, he completed three legs and proximity isn't an issue during take-off and landing... nice bit of flying. If his name was Bob Hoover no-one would bat an eyelid. Just my 2c . 7
ayavner Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Yeah, like i said... dunno. It is an extremely impressive bit of flying.
Sapphire Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Driving down the road and someone in front is going 5km/hr too slow they'll be called a moron, if someone overtakes they'll be called a maniac, if someone gets really practiced and familiar with his craft and flies it more impressively than others he's dangerous and if someone flies once a month and does really large and conservative circuits because he's way behind the aircraft then he'll be called sensible and safe...I can't see what could be legally wrong with it provided his radio calls were correct, low and tight circuits are permitted, there are no speed requirements, he completed three legs and proximity isn't an issue during take-off and landing... nice bit of flying. If his name was Bob Hoover no-one would bat an eyelid. Just my 2c . That sort of flying keeps you in shape. The pilot who can't handle more than 30 deg angle on bank will be a gonner doing a tight turn around after engine failure.
XP503 Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Gotta admit that was impressive. The gent obviously can fly. The accuracy of that final turn then wings level to flare was amazing. There is a fine line between being a cowboy and having a natural flair for aviating.
Head in the clouds Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 ....There is a fine line between being a cowboy and having a natural flair for aviating. It probably doesn't even need to be a natural flair, just lots of practice will do it, and flying jump planes means you get lots of practice. It's a bit like when you're instructing, you can let a student make a right mess of it (a landing for example) and leave it 'til observers would say the crash seems certain, then you can fix the situation with what appears to be little more than a nudge on the stick. Leave off that kind of flying for a year or two and you're back to having to concentrate on the circuit and landing a lot more. .
Gentreau Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 He's obviously a concientious pilot who wants to fly as economically as possible, no point wasting fuel eh ? Seriously though, as it's a jump plane, he must have flown that same pattern hundreds of times. 1
Neville75 Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. I thought CAR166 said to complete turn onto final by 500feet, not 50 and he let down on the downwind leg. Yes spectatcular control - this time...... Just one thread away has a cpl pilot dead from what some reports have as flying a low pass to wave at spectators. Wonder what might happen to this pilot if those unexpected threats come along, birds, gusts, windshear? By nature I am very conservative and I get that not everyone is like me and that jump pilots would do the same sortie many times a day, but I'm a bit surprised that people would think this exhibitioning is acceptable and praiseworthy. Nev 4
Gentreau Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 With respect Neville, I don't think CAR166 applies in Germany which I understand is where that video was shot. I'm also not sure that it's fair to draw parallels with the recent accident, as that appears to have happened away from an airfield. Those videos were shot at an airfield where there are no power lines around the field.
cooperplace Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Thought id post this vid here pre-emptivly. He will be here soon.Fast forward to bout 2.20 [media=liveleak]20a_1355531018[/media] wtf??? ah, I know, it's "white tiled floor" in land agent speak.
cscotthendry Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. I thought CAR166 said to complete turn onto final by 500feet, not 50 and he let down on the downwind leg. Yes spectatcular control - this time...... Just one thread away has a cpl pilot dead from what some reports have as flying a low pass to wave at spectators. Wonder what might happen to this pilot if those unexpected threats come along, birds, gusts, windshear? By nature I am very conservative and I get that not everyone is like me and that jump pilots would do the same sortie many times a day, but I'm a bit surprised that people would think this exhibitioning is acceptable and praiseworthy.Nev Nev: To follow on from what you said: How many times have we heard the phrase "He was a very experienced pilot" of a recently deceased? It was the case with Des, it's now the case with the guy at Burrum, etc etc ad nauseum. 1
robinsm Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 A dead idiot is still a dead idiot if an engine failed, etc etc.
Gentreau Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 In this particular case, he doesn't appear to need his engines, they are idling. Look at the speed he carries into the baseleg/final turn. Bob Hoover did this sort of thing all the time and he's called a hero ! 2
Gentreau Posted December 18, 2012 Posted December 18, 2012 A Dornier 28 http://www.flugzeuginfo.net/acimages/do28d2_kp.jpg .
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