You just KNOW you're only a weekend pilot when. . . . .

[Phil Perry]

"You Just KNOW you're only a weekend pilot when . . . . "

 

You just inadvertently flew your trike into a solid deck of stratus with only a rev counter, an altimeter and an old hand held radio on a bit of velcro on the dash. . . . with wet gloves, . . . shortly followed by Pants. . . . .

 

 

[Guest Howard Hughes]

I'm know nothing of trikes, but with that big pendulum slung under the wing, surely they are 'self righting'!

 

 

[facthunter]

Don't think they are worse than a helicopter. ( Which also has a mass under the wing). On a more serious note surely they will spiral? Nev

 

 

[cscotthendry]

How does anyone "inadvertently" fly into a "solid deck of stratus"? Isn't that a bit like walking into a brick wall on a bright sunny day?

 

 

[turboplanner]

Especially when you are supposed to have 5Nm (Australia) clear vision before you whack it............................

 

 

[Bandit12]

How does anyone "inadvertently" fly into a "solid deck of stratus"? Isn't that a bit like walking into a brick wall on a bright sunny day?

I've done the second more than once - perhaps I really should start worrying about the first!

 

 

[turboplanner]

Depends what you were looking at when you hit the brick wall - in some cases there are mitigating circumstances.

 

 

[Bandit12]

"You Just KNOW you're only a weekend pilot when . . . . "

Your last set of maps expired before you had a chance to use them

 

 

[ayavner]

you've passed your Nav/Met exam and have forgotten most of it and STILL haven't been able to get a Navex in.

 

just sayin...

 

 

[Guest Howard Hughes]

I'm only a weekend pilot, however I do try to fly mostly at night, to avoid all of the other 'weekend pilots'!

 

 

[flying dog]

Howard,

 

What's that saying about flying at night......

 

"If you don't like what you see, turn the lights off" or something like that.

 

 

[Ignition]

Especially when you are supposed to have 5Nm (Australia) clear vision before you whack it............................

5nm, you sure about that Tubz...?

 

 

[cscotthendry]

Your last set of maps expired before you had a chance to use them

Ooohh, been there, done that!

 

 

[ben87r]

5000m me thinks

 

 

[metalman]

You know your a weekend pilot when you work all week under clear blue skies only to sit there weeping into your Friday beers as the wind picks up, the clouds roll in, the rain starts to fall and the forecast in 5 knots variable , cavok,,,,,,FOR MONDAY

 

 

[av8vfr]

..... you only fly early cause being #4 in the pattern is information overload..

 

 

[planet47]

How does anyone "inadvertently" fly into a "solid deck of stratus"? Isn't that a bit like walking into a brick wall on a bright sunny day?

 

I once knew someone who walked into a tree while reading and was silly enough to come and tell me because he thought my laughter was all about him! So anything is possible.

 

 

[motzartmerv]

Yes its 5 klm's vis, not 5 miles (generally). Its not a place for a trike or a weekend pilot...And certainly not BOTH...

 

 

[cooperplace]

..... you only fly early cause being #4 in the pattern is information overload..

I can relate to that.

 

 

[Gnarly Gnu]

When starting I found it bizarre how the regulations are a mish-mash of feet, metres, miles and the odd kilometre. Mostly gotten used to it now, perhaps forgetting some of them helped.

 

 

[Phil Perry]

I'm know nothing of trikes, but with that big pendulum slung under the wing, surely they are 'self righting'!

Errr, . . .No Howard, they don't work like that although I can see where you're coming from if you have not flown them.

 

My "Old" trike ( Mainair Gemini Flash 2 ) can be spiralled out of cloud for a limited vertical distance, BUT the spiral soon develops into a much steeper "corkscrew" and the 89 mph VNE would be exceeded quite soon, and it would alter wing config into a swept back dacron dart fairly quickly, once around 120 - 130 mph was reached. . . . The later model ( Flash 2 ALpha ) has a different wing, which can be spiralled in a stable condition holding around 45 deg angle of bank and will not increase speed above approximately 70 - 75 mph. his is a useful get out of jail card, assuming you were not scud running thru some high ground before you inadvertantly. . . . . . . .

 

I can't comment about the new fancy nitro - garlic injected four cylinder hotships which richer people fly,. . . . . Maybe those pilots have to be as careful as you lot appear to be ( from your posts ) and not do anything as silly as inadvertantly fly into any brick walls . . . .

 

Phil

 

 

[Phil Perry]

How does anyone "inadvertently" fly into a "solid deck of stratus"? Isn't that a bit like walking into a brick wall on a bright sunny day?I once knew someone who walked into a tree while reading and was silly enough to come and tell me because he thought my laughter was all about him! So anything is possible.

If you never fly in marginal viz, then you'll never fly into anything other than nice sunshine, inadvertantly or not. . . .

 

Around 2 weeks ago, I had cause to stop my car and scrape a young girl off the pavement. She had, according to a witness, walked into a lamp post whilst texting on her phone. She actually broke her nose. I guess then that if you fly in poor viz, then spend too much time with your head in the cabin messing around reprogramming your supercolourmapnavvythingy, then this is also termed "Distraction"

 

I admit to having flown into not only Cumulus, but Stratocu AND the edge of a CuNim as well , whilst doing something else and not looking out of the bloody front window. "He who is without sin. . . etc. . . etc. . . . "

 

I DID, of course, write to the appropriate authorities after landing on each occasion and report myself for this indiscretion. . . . . .

 

 

[Phil Perry]

I'm know nothing of trikes, but with that big pendulum slung under the wing, surely they are 'self righting'!

Sorry Howard, I forgot to mention in the first reply that it isn't possible to hold straight and level in a trike when deprived of visibility either, WHATEVER YOU MAY HAVE BEEN TOLD BY OTHERS . . . Not until some enterprising person comes up with a working Artificial Horizon for trikes. . . . . ( AND AN IMC RATING SO THE PILOT KNOWS HOW TO INTERPRET WHAT IT SAYS. . .) this one has been done to death on forums for many years, where do you place the sensor, ? In the trike pod ? In the Wing ?? and what sort of weight would all the neccessary DeIcing kit add to the airframe ??

 

We've even ( seriously ) had a guy here in the UK who reckons he can use his Iphone with the Guiness beer glass app stuck on his trike panel, and he says he can fly in cloud by keeping the beer level.

 

OK it's obviously a laugh, but I wonder how many impressionable young pilots would read such dross and believe it. . . . . ( Ian, . . . dyou think it would work better with a BEX Beer glass App ? )

 

Stop it, I'm laughing so hard it hurtz.

 

 

[Phil Perry]

Don't think they are worse than a helicopter. ( Which also has a mass under the wing). On a more serious note surely they will spiral? Nev

Yes they will Nev, see posts on that. . . Phil

 

And I forgot to mention in those posts that the Spiral dive, as a means of salvation anyway, is currently NOT taught to students in the UK as far as I am aware, this comes under the banner of "Advanced flight training "

 

 

[Phil Perry]

You just KNOW you're a weekend pilot when. . . . .

 

AN innocent non-flying onlooker at your airfield says to you. . . . "Did you just land,. . . or were you shot down ?"