Guest disperse Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 as a complete newbie the bigest problem i have faced (besides the missus:hug:) is the many many abbreviations used through out the forums and more so the RAA (recreational aviation australia)website.....im not suggesting that they're not used or explained in every post . But if we could have a thread with some explainations that would be TOPS:cool:............ GA........general aviation MTOW...maximum take off weight EFOTO...engine failure on take off anyway the list go,s on and on THANKS Troy
Ultralights Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 ROC ...... Rate of climb TOC........top of climb
Guest disperse Posted June 25, 2007 Posted June 25, 2007 TOP STUFF there's two i didn't know ! Thanks Troy
Guest Fred Bear Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 Some good reading here too: http://www.casa.gov.au/rules/abbrev.htm
Guest Sabre Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 Thanks for that link Darren...I knew I had seen it somewhere Cheers
Yenn Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 That link is good but at a quick glance I couldn't see ARFOR, Area Forecast. The AIP Aeronautical Information Publication has just about all the abbreviations and also definitions. See if your flight school or instructor has a copy to look at.
Guest ozzie Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 Here's a couple of important ones TORA "takeoff run available" TODA "takeoff distance available" substitute T for L for landing. ozzie
Guest Redair Posted June 26, 2007 Posted June 26, 2007 A few more B1RD: A flying animal. DFWH: Don't Fly With Him/Her. DEAD: Don't Ever Aviate Drunk. IDSFABIPIOMSTBTIAP: It Doesn't stand For Anything But I Printed It On My Shirt To Break The Ice At Parties. Redair.
facthunter Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Abbreviations. Going back a bit , It's EFATO. (this is from memory)engine failure AT take off. It all adds to the enormous confusion in this game. I can only sympathise with anyone starting out new, now. Personally, I hate all TLA's (Three Letter Abbreviations). Read somewhere the other day that ADF. means Austalian Defence Forces. (& all this time I thought it meant Automatic Direction Finder).At least the new new starts don"t have to unlearn the old meanings . Nev..
Ben Longden Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Either way its what you might call a "pucker" event....;) And yes, I hate bloody acronyms and the like. Ben
Guest Rocko Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Abbrevs... ;) Pucker event? That sounds more like a Brown trousers thing! ;) Always know it's a hair raising one, when it's a "3 change of underwear" trip! Scotty
Guest ozzie Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 may as well drag the dept in on this DCA DOA DOT DOTC CAA CASA DONC I think i missed one. and the order maybe.
facthunter Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Abbreviations. Darren,---- couldn't see the relevence of that, as the aircraft's performance (Climb gradient & accelerate-stop) in this situation,(multi-engine) is probably what is being considered. If these abbreviations are used & the readers are not clear as to what is intended, then it becomes very tedious to look up what they mean, if in fact they have a ready & reliable reference at hand. Most people, as they read, make a guess as to what the meaning is, increasing the vagueness of the whole thing,& the learning or communication process is degraded. Unless you are using these abbreviations in the context of use by a group who are very familiar with their meaning, their use should be minimised, or eliminated. ...Nev..
Guest Fred Bear Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 When I flew GA I was taught Engine Failure After Take Off. The event that your engine should become deceased after you have left the deck. In GA, it's still current term and I am guessing our movement here would not be any different. Do a Google Search for EFATO. You will get the same consistent results.
facthunter Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 Abbreviations. Found a reference to it in the new CASA Flight Instructor Manual, not in the form of an abbreviation." Engine Failure After Take-Off" (in the night flying section.) Since this relates to all flying (since you don't do any before take-off) shouldn't it be called simply, IN FLIGHT ENGINE FAILURE. My whole point is that these things create confusion. N....
Guest Fred Bear Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 The engine failure after take off is named such as it occurs during that exact time. Just after the aircraft has taken off and is in its most crucial flight phase and BANG! Usually leads to a spin as the pilot tried to turn back to the runway. Engine failures during flight could mean at cruise etc. There are many definitions. I mean, you can have an engine failure on final. All crucial wording when submitting reports.
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