Skee Posted January 17, 2014 Author Posted January 17, 2014 So been away at work for a week, nothing really done. I had time to install IP67 class connectors on trim. And made the adjustments so the top fin strobe would look good, some fibreglass, filler and polishing until i was happy, sometimes the parts from ICP isn't a perfect fit i may say either. And as im at it, why not fill in a dent. Have a great weekend, i know i am gonna have, prep for parts, rear fuselage 1
rankamateur Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 I am a bit worried for you, wings are awkward to carry out of the third floor. The fuselage is going to be a real pain in the butt!
Skee Posted January 18, 2014 Author Posted January 18, 2014 I am a bit worried for you, wings are awkward to carry out of the third floor. The fuselage is going to be a real pain in the butt! Its will be a tad more expensive with the fuselage, thinking of building scaffolding where i will roll it out and asking someone with a crane to come and hoise it down.
Kyle Communications Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 I wouldn't think so with the cabin frame on
Skee Posted January 18, 2014 Author Posted January 18, 2014 I wouldn't think so with the cabin frame on window is ~155*155 cm, it should fit out, 1
Skee Posted January 18, 2014 Author Posted January 18, 2014 window is ~155*155 cm, it should fit out, According to a friend of mine, frame is ~120cm from bottom to top frame, im pretty shure it will come out. So the ordinary, Grind, de burr, paint and assemble. but the thing that confused me a bit today is the riveting of the corners, its described in the manual, riv from inside to outside, i checked a few other builds and no one had done this way. Arrows clearly indicate what direction to rivet.
Skee Posted January 20, 2014 Author Posted January 20, 2014 Ok so i got my antennas delivered today, and now where to put them, i got two antenna support consoles, one on top for the VHF antenna, and another one, that i think is for the Transponder antenna, now drawing shows to mount the console on top of fuselage(i think?) but the console also fits on bottom, is there anything wrong on mounting the xpnder antenna underneath on this console? level flight will it work? Some people put it far forward under the cabin and when using this console its placed middle back? how does this work with distance from other antennas? Other wise i now got my Pitot console, thanks for the idea Mark. This was a hard nut to crack until i found the combination in what order. And rudder cables.
Kyle Communications Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I have my VHF under the aircraft at the front...my UHF CB also and I have a APRS ham radio tracking antenna on the top rear deck...when I get a transponder it will go underneath as well. At the heights we fly your antennas are better underneath if you have the clearance as you don't really need to speak to the jet jockeys at FL35 you want to speak to the ground and other pilots at similar levels. Mark
Kyle Communications Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 [ATTACH]26975[/ATTACH]Ok so i got my antennas delivered today, and now where to put them, i got two antenna support consoles, one on top for the VHF antenna, and another one, that i think is for the Transponder antenna, now drawing shows to mount the console on top of fuselage(i think?) but the console also fits on bottom, is there anything wrong on mounting the xpnder antenna underneath on this console? level flight will it work? Mount your transponder antenna underneath as the reception stations are ground based
rankamateur Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 According to a friend of mine, frame is ~120cm from bottom to top frame, im pretty shure it will come out.So the ordinary, Grind, de burr, paint and assemble. [ATTACH]26948[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]26949[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]26950[/ATTACH] but the thing that confused me a bit today is the riveting of the corners, its described in the manual, riv from inside to outside, i checked a few other builds and no one had done this way. Arrows clearly indicate what direction to rivet. [ATTACH]26951[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]26952[/ATTACH] The riveting that way looks better when you poke your head in thr hatch, you will see rivet heads instead of tails. It doesn't look so right at the frame assembly stage though.
rankamateur Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 now drawing shows to mount the console on top of fuselage(i think?) but the console also fits on bottom, is there anything wrong on mounting the xpnder antenna underneath on this console? level flight will it work?I sure hope it will work, that is what I did with mine for my UHF
Skee Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 Mount your transponder antenna underneath as the reception stations are ground based on the rear antenna console or under cabin? I sure hope it will work, that is what I did with mine for my UHF UHF radio? you need that? I have my VHF under the aircraft at the front...my UHF CB also and I have a APRS ham radio tracking antenna on the top rear deck...when I get a transponder it will go underneath as well. At the heights we fly your antennas are better underneath if you have the clearance as you don't really need to speak to the jet jockeys at FL35 you want to speak to the ground and other pilots at similar levels.Mark I agree. my Fk 9 at the club uses the VHf on top, works well with atc, estetics may play a role for me when mounting antenna ;)
Kyle Communications Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I would mount my transponder antenna just behind the main gear near the underneath door hatch it keeps it more level while flying otherwise you will be off pointing the radiation pattern. The UHF is a CB style radio they are super popular almost every farmer and 4wd user has them they are free no licence and work well from 5000 feet. My VHF air band antenna is UNDERNEATH my aircraft at the from NOT on the top the reasons I explained in the previous post. I hear radios from unbelievable distances because it is more in line with the area and levels we transmit on. The same goes with commercial aircraft that fly at FL30 and above otherwise the antenna radiation is going out into space not over the earth. If you look behind the nose wheel you will see the Comant 121 and there is a small stainless steel whip on the other side of the fuselage that is the UHF. The antenna I have on the top is because I could not fit it underneath it is for VHF as well but it is on the ham radio band for APRS which is realtime tracking. This is the last flight before the incident http://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=11&call=a%2FVK4KZK-9&timerange=3600&tail=3600
Skee Posted January 21, 2014 Author Posted January 21, 2014 APRS which is realtime tracking. This is the last flight before the incidenthttp://aprs.fi/#!mt=roadmap&z=11&call=a/VK4KZK-9&timerange=3600&tail=3600 APRS? is it like using a cellphone with gps tracker app?
Kyle Communications Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 sort of....it uses a gps engine into a small transmitter on the VHF ham radio band..this is why you need a ham licence the transmissions are a sort packet of data giving the gps position speed and height this is then picked up by a huge network of ham radio stations running special software this is then sent out over the internet to a main server and that is then depicted as in the link. You do a callsign search mine is VK4KZK-9 the -9 denotes aircraft. It also has a list of all previous flights if you go to history you can pick up days and months and years. One trap is it does it over UTC time so if I take off on Saturday morning and I land somewhere before 10am our time (00:00Z) the date of the flight will be the Friday the rest of the flight after 10am my time will come up as early Saturday morning like 2 am England time
rankamateur Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 This was a hard nut to crack until i found the combination in what order. Not leaving the top plate outside the frame as it says in the manual, you can't get the top clecoes to line up in the top holes, leave it only outside the top/ inside the side frame as you have.
Skee Posted January 23, 2014 Author Posted January 23, 2014 Not leaving the top plate outside the frame as it says in the manual, you can't get the top clecoes to line up in the top holes, leave it only outside the top/ inside the side frame as you have. Precisely, holes wouldn't line up, so this was the only way to do it. I'm about to skin the fuselage =) 1
Skee Posted January 25, 2014 Author Posted January 25, 2014 So i skinned the whole fuselage, that took some time yes, so tedious when you needed to get the rivets in the corners soft flanges, loved it when you missed it and had to drill a rivet in the middle of the fuselage, bending :( and when finally done i discover that the reservoir hole is on the wrong side , i was so sure i had it correct, well, late night builds:sleep: Ill just close that hole up and make a new one on the other side if its not possible to put it on this side? Grommet or make a plate on the inside and rivet?
rankamateur Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 Ill just close that hole up and make a new one on the other side if its not possible to put it on this side? Grommet or make a plate on the inside and rivet? I think it will foul the flap control box if you install it on the other side, you will not have a battery drain hole on the battery compartment either. I put my side skins on the wrong side, purposely, but they do have little tool marks where the CNC machines grip the sheets all the way along the edge, so your bottom sheet probrably has those too. In my case it put the access door on the other side so I could more easily service the battery. Do you have a part number xx133 , can't remember the letters, across the top of your luggage compartment , in line with the back of the rocket bay, could you post a photo of it if you do, mine is missing from the kit and I need to fabricate one. thanks 1
Skee Posted January 25, 2014 Author Posted January 25, 2014 I think it will foul the flap control box if you install it on the other side, you will not have a battery drain hole on the battery compartment either. I put my side skins on the wrong side, purposely, but they do have little tool marks where the CNC machines grip the sheets all the way along the edge, so your bottom sheet probrably has those too. In my case it put the access door on the other side so I could more easily service the battery. Do you have a part number xx133 , can't remember the letters, across the top of your luggage compartment , in line with the back of the rocket bay, could you post a photo of it if you do, mine is missing from the kit and I need to fabricate one. thanks What chapter? roughly what size is it? isnt it in the manuals photos? Im going with a lithium battery, dont need battery drain..
rankamateur Posted January 25, 2014 Posted January 25, 2014 End of the rear fuselage chapter, last page I think, might not be in yours because you might have a rocket frame instead of extended baggage bay.
Skee Posted January 27, 2014 Author Posted January 27, 2014 Sf275 and 276, cant find in drawing but in spareparts list i can see where they should go, but not accurantly enough, anyone? 63 & 64
Skee Posted January 27, 2014 Author Posted January 27, 2014 why did the manufacturer of parachute send me eleven 3,5m bridles? i need. NOTE: lunghezza delle briglie / length of bridles A = posteriori (rear bridles) = 5 ft = 1.5 m (2 pieces) B = frontali (forward bridles) = 5.5 ft = 1.7 m (2 pieces) C = centrale / principale (central bridle) = 8 ft = 2.4 m (1 piece) thats just 5 of them.. sigh:loopy:
rankamateur Posted January 27, 2014 Posted January 27, 2014 They go down the bottom of each side of the rear fuselage, cleco the extruded angle and seat back down the front of the fuselage frame, leave a space for the extruded angle for the fuselage sides then put 63 and 64 below the main frame. You will see how it works then. The main gear bracket bolts to it through the side skin and then those pull the side of the fuselage out sideways as you align the bolts in the rear side of the main gear channel. note the manual says bolt the sides, then bolt the front and rear bolts on the next page, don't get tempted to put the larger bolts in the channel first or you won't get a good fit on the small ones that go through the side brackets. 1 1
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