SDQDI Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Well how many planes have gone missing lately? Seems if all these are correct there will a few planes found???? As has been mentioned before eyewitness accounts are often unreliable so the few good ones will often get dismissed until technical data is there to back them up. If you were getting genuine pings from a black box you wouldn't give two hoots about joe blogs who saw something elsewhere 2
Old Koreelah Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Agreed that many eyewitness reports are dodgy, but how reliable are the pings heard? Were they confirmed as only coming from a FDR? Could some evil submarine have been lurking in the area planting false leads to cover up a Big Conspiracy? 1
bexrbetter Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 If you were getting genuine pings from a black box you wouldn't give two hoots about joe blogs who saw something elsewhere Totally agree if they were genuine - has anyone noticed the supposed 4 lots of pings from the current seabed location are far short of where the last satellite ping put the plane? I'm a little confused with that one.
Old Koreelah Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 This whole mystery has so many twists and turns it's doing my head in. I might just wait till the movie comes out. 2
rankamateur Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Agreed that many eyewitness reports are dodgy, but how reliable are the pings heard? Were they confirmed as only coming from a FDR? Could some evil submarine have been lurking in the area planting false leads to cover up a Big Conspiracy? Or an emitter dropped by a chinese search ship enroute to the original search area, sure wasted the rest of the battery life of the original flight recorders while we stuffed around chasing ghosts. 1
Old Koreelah Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 We sure seem to have lost our trust in the authorities. Too many conspiracy movies?
rankamateur Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 It all started on day one with the confusion about just what was on the cargo manifest, why there were 50 spare seats in the cabin to keep the weight down and why are the Yanks so quiet after losing 20 employees from one American defence contracting company. 1 1
pmccarthy Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 It is strange that the two new remote-sensing based discoveries both show a completely intact aircraft. This would only be possible with a successful and lucky landing on still water. The odds a very much against either of these discoveries being a lost aircraft. 1
dutchroll Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 The bottom line is that everyone reckons they've sighted it, and everyone is convinced their sighting is better than the other 25 sightings in 25 totally different locations hundreds or thousands of miles from each other. Then there's the 3197 theories of what actually happened and where it went, each of which makes eminently more sense than the other 3196 theories which are obviously garbage, according to the originator of each of them. 1
Old Koreelah Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 ...there's the 3197 theories of what actually happened and where it went, each of which makes eminently more sense than the other 3196 theories which are obviously garbage, according to the originator of each of them. Pretty much like most religions, Dutch. My religion is the only proper one. 1
Bob Llewellyn Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 We sure seem to have lost our trust in the authorities. Too many conspiracy movies? How about when Lord Kitchener's coffin arrived at the docks before he sailed on the Edinburgh, which ran into an unexpected German naval force and was sunk with all hands? WW1...
Gnarly Gnu Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Pretty much like most religions Well the goodness or otherwise of any religion can be judged by it's fruit. Thus far all searching has been fruitless so at this point pretty much all theories are still valid. I'm going with the one that turns up at least a MH370 seat cushion... can't be asking too much.
Old Koreelah Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 How about when Lord Kitchener's coffin arrived at the docks before he sailed on the Edinburgh, which ran into an unexpected German naval force and was sunk with all hands? WW1... Bob you and I have been reading different history books.
Bob Llewellyn Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Bob you and I have been reading different history books. "Goldfinder", by Kieth Jessop. He found the Edinburgh, but the research turned up all sorts of unusual tidbits... ps I'm betting Kitchener was NOT on MH370...
Old Koreelah Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 "Goldfinder", by Kieth Jessop. He found the Edinburgh, but the research turned up all sorts of unusual tidbits...ps I'm betting Kitchener was NOT on MH370... He wasn't on the Edinburgh either. Wrong ship, wrong war.
dutchroll Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Kitchener was on HMS Hampshire, not Edinburgh. HMS Hampshire ran into a mine laid by a U-boat, not an unexpected naval force. Even Jessop in his book admits the coffin story was only a rumour he dug up in an old file. Various colourful rumours were not uncommon regarding sinkings........or aircraft disappearances for that matter!
Bob Llewellyn Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 He wasn't on the Edinburgh either. Wrong ship, wrong war. I stand corrected - Hampshire, Edinburgh, WW1, WW2... no need to get pedantic about conspiracy theories... the hippopotamus of recollection suggests that there was a Lloyd George involved, and they weren't a big feature of WW2. Anyway, you can't trust the government, they're out to get all of us...
bexrbetter Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 ps I'm betting Kitchener was NOT on MH370... Can you prove that? Pretty much like most religions, Dutch. My religion is the only proper one. .... and luckily your God is on your side during a war.
Old Koreelah Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 So true, Bex. Jokes aside, I would love to write a book about the better side of human nature, especially in war. There is plenty of material, including incidents which show some innate respect for the religious beliefs of the enemy. Several Moslem conquerors respected Christian churches, and after he took Khartoum, Kitchener made a point of rebuilding mosques. A well-documented case was when Japanese forces held their fire at Isurava while an Australian padre walked into no-man's-land to bury a fallen digger.
bexrbetter Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 A well-documented case was when Japanese forces held their fire at Isurava while an Australian padre walked into no-man's-land to bury a fallen digger. Yeah the Japanese were odd when it came to Clergymen, cases similar in China where they slaughtered like animals otherwise. 1
flying dog Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 If you were getting genuine pings from a black box you wouldn't give two hoots about joe blogs who saw something elsewhere I think I need glasses. I was wondering for a while what you were talking about: Getting guine pigs from the black box. Oh boy! Nurse! 4
pmccarthy Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 Many a truth can be discovered by analysing anagrams. If we take the words Malaysian Airlines and rearrange the letters we get a mainline liar says which is a commentary on some of the information we have been fed by the authorities. Another rearrangement gives a silly mania arisen, which is a pointer to some of the other theorists we have heard about. But some of those theories have anagrammatic support! There is a rainy anal missile which points to bad weather, military involvement and perhaps a senior Malaysian politician. Also alas, mini aliens ray which tells us not only who, but how they did it. My own theory is based on three anagrammatic Al-Quaeda intercepts which seem to provide a rock-solid story: Any alarm is in aisle Airman easily slain Slay airman in aisle I rest my case. (weather here is not suitable for flying today, I have too much time on my hands) 1 2 1
rankamateur Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 why are the Yanks so quiet after losing 20 employees from one American defence contracting company. This maybe? Thanks to my next door neighbour for the following thought provoking email Why hasn't someone put an aircraft carrier there, which could stay on station, rather than planes from everywhere flying out for 2 hours search daily. How many millions is it costing for these planes? I reckon the money would be better spent on a carrier with helicopters. If it wasn't such a tragic event we could all freely laugh with great gusto at the mainstream media regarding the disappearance of Malaysian flight 370. Every single source, substantiated or not, was taken as a great revelation. It was and continues to be a sad circus of events. If those following the serious clues left available there is only one question to ask. Why does no one mention the Indian Oceans most advanced and secure air base, the stationary Aircraft Carrier located south of the southern tip of India called Diego Garcia? Not a peep. Not even an indication of a US managed military installation that monitors everything in this war region. In fact the best old metaphor regarding the lack of reference to this location is "The Silence Is Deafening." So here it is. As CNN, Fox, MSNBC, CBC, BBC, CTV and all the rest are prepared to spout off theories without any solid confirmation, here is one from a source who wishes to remain unidentified from Northwest BC Canada. This individual comes from a three decade long background of exposing the secrets the one percent and the military forces would rather have remained secret. He has recently revealed what happened to flight 370. 'Film at Eleven'. Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah prepared and practised with his home flight simulator and had determined the maximum speed and angle of decent the Boeing 777 could withstand. As soon as the flight reached the extent of the Malaysian radar capability, when he knew they would no longer expect to see his radar signal, he wished the ground crews good night. He then turned off one tracking device, waited to see if anyone responded or raised alarm for 15 minutes, then turned off all communication devices. He locked the cabin door to prevent anyone from entering after asking his co-pilot to get him a drink or check on a system outside of the cockpit. The Captain then immediately turned the plane southwest into a know flight path and climbed to over 40,000 ft. the maximum structural capability of the Boeing 777. He put on the pilot supplied air mask and kept the plane at over 40,000 ft until he was certain all the passengers and crew, including his co-pilot, were asphyxiated. From his flight simulator experimentation he had already determined the precise coordinates where he would initiate his next action. To bring the plane down at the maximum speed and maximum angle of decent to make a direct hit on the fuel storage tanks at Diego Garcia. As he initiated this direct course of action the American Military had not been concerned with the radar blip of this flight at 40,000 plus feet. They monitor vessels and flights which appear to be a threat or are invading their space. However they were suddenly brought into complete attention as their warning systems set off alarms. The base at Diego Garcia attempted to make radio contact and immediately dispatching interceptors. Knowing full well this was an imminent threat, having no time to debate the issue and recognizing the aircraft was operating in what was basically 'stealth' mode, uncommunicative, the plane was shot out of the sky. Becoming aware of which flight it was with the political and potential military repercussions, the US military ordered a complete lock down on all communications regarding the event and began dispatching crews to locate and pick up all the debris. When the rest of the world became aware the flight was missing the US Navy offered all their resource to help them look for it in the South China Sea, then the Gulf of Thailand, Bay of Bengal and the Strait of Malacca. This kept the worlds attention focused away from the location they were cleaning up. US 7th Fleet Commander William Marks told CNN "We wait for the Malaysians to tell us where to search and we go there." This is the most telling statement of all. Since when does the US take directions from Malaysia unless they are simply providing the rope to let them hang themselves. The most powerful radar systems in the region are at Diego Garcia. A perfect target for such an attack, one the USA stopped and one they simply cannot reveal to the world due to the nationality of the passengers on board. They will continue to assist in the search while doing everything to ensure no one even mentions Diego Garcia in the mainstream media. 1
Kyle Communications Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 very interesting take on the situation....and plausible too
turboplanner Posted May 6, 2014 Posted May 6, 2014 From an unnamed source. Watch upcoming episodes of our NES for further information.
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