rdarby Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/retired-swiss-pilot-heinz-peier-arrested-in-indonesia/story-fnizu68q-1226886805818 Not sure how you miss controlled airspace to such an extent they scramble the interceptors. I suspect there is more to this, but it makes one wonder. 2
SDQDI Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 Wow I can think of better ways to do a stress test:big gun:
facthunter Posted April 16, 2014 Posted April 16, 2014 The whole of Indonesia is an ADIZ the last time I looked. That would be normal procedure for an unapproved/unnotified aircraft. Nev
PA. Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 The Indonesians had got all excited, they thought they had found MH370. 1
facthunter Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Fit an ordinary person out with a uniform and instant personality change in some cases. Nev 3
dan3111 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 i think they were looking for bogiy boards and or covers in the plane :) god help as all going over there .
PA. Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Slight overkill perhaps. But at least it ends in true love. As they walk away hand in hand.
David Isaac Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 yeah .. I think the little guy in the blue hat fancies peter ... LOL
dan3111 Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 maybe the troups haven,t see a plane before and may have thought i was a big bird to hunt .
dutchroll Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 People can laugh at their reaction or over-reaction all they want. But Indonesia is not the place you want to get arrested. It pays to do research before your rock up unannounced on another country's doorstep. As a passenger on a scheduled RPT flight you just need a passport and possibly a VISA. But if you're taking your own plane with you, it's not always that simple. When Johnstone Atoll in the Pacific was active (a restricted US Army base where rather nasty weapons were handled), I remember a solo pilot doing a trans-Pacific flight attempting to break some record and turning up there unannounced, only to be horrified at their very inglorious "welcome". This information is available if you do the right sort of research for your trip. It ain't rocket science. Even we who operate the big commercial jets are required to have overflight clearances for many countries (these are totally different to an "ATC clearance"). Without it, you simply don't go into their airspace - period. It's even more stringent if you're in the military. In the RAAF we usually had to do flight clearances for foreign country overflights weeks in advance (anywhere in Asia normally being the worst, as their bureaucracy runs at its own leisurely pace). Not having this clearance could result in you being intercepted, and/or creating a rather unpleasant diplomatic incident. http://www.worldairops.com/overflightpermit.html
Downunder Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 Not sure why they needed to "hold" the poor bloke.......Where was he going to run to?
David Isaac Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 I told you ... The little guy in blue with the white gun holster fancied him ....
Gpshaun Posted April 19, 2014 Posted April 19, 2014 My uncle and aunty had a similar experience in the mid 70s when they inadvertently landed their T18 at NAS Nowra in deteriorating weather. The reception party was not as well armed but equally as cross! After the situation was explained all was good and the duty watch was sent to the end of the runway to recover the wheel spats that had been torn off by the arrester wire. They where treated to lunch at the officers mess and given a tour of the base while they waited for the weather to clear. They then continued on with their circumnavigation of Oz with no further incident.
Teckair Posted April 25, 2014 Posted April 25, 2014 Wonder if the guys with guns surrounding the plane realise they could shoot each other? 2 1
AJS71 Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Ah that old military adage...the more elaborate the uniform, the worse the soldier! Let's surround him and aim our rifles at each other! Nice one!
M61A1 Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 People can laugh at their reaction or over-reaction all they want. But Indonesia is not the place you want to get arrested.It pays to do research before your rock up unannounced on another country's doorstep. As a passenger on a scheduled RPT flight you just need a passport and possibly a VISA. But if you're taking your own plane with you, it's not always that simple. When Johnstone Atoll in the Pacific was active (a restricted US Army base where rather nasty weapons were handled), I remember a solo pilot doing a trans-Pacific flight attempting to break some record and turning up there unannounced, only to be horrified at their very inglorious "welcome". This information is available if you do the right sort of research for your trip. It ain't rocket science. Even we who operate the big commercial jets are required to have overflight clearances for many countries (these are totally different to an "ATC clearance"). Without it, you simply don't go into their airspace - period. It's even more stringent if you're in the military. In the RAAF we usually had to do flight clearances for foreign country overflights weeks in advance (anywhere in Asia normally being the worst, as their bureaucracy runs at its own leisurely pace). Not having this clearance could result in you being intercepted, and/or creating a rather unpleasant diplomatic incident. http://www.worldairops.com/overflightpermit.html Yep, I remember our flight being delayed (C130 to Butterworth) because we were still waiting for clearance through Indonesian airspace. It was my understanding that we took off still waiting, but expecting approval whilst in transit, it didn't stop us being escorted by some Indo fighters. I have absolutely no desire to visit Indonesia ever. 1
planedriver Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 Me too. After three consecutive abortive take-offs on a Garuda flight I was cured too. (Who said that's nornal?) 1
flying dog Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 People can laugh at their reaction or over-reaction all they want. But Indonesia is not the place you want to get arrested. Just ask Schapelle Corby.
Cosmick Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 Wonder if the guys with guns surrounding the plane realise they could shoot each other? Thats why they are on the ground so they would shoot high and only get the Nasty Culpret and the officer
jeffd Posted May 4, 2014 Posted May 4, 2014 nope u got it all wrong the soldiers shoot each other the pilot slips the pistol from the officers holster WHILE twisting his arm up behind his back then using him as a shield withdraws back into the aircraft .then after making a lightning excape from the aerodrome in his aircraft lands said aircraft safely at another location dropping off the officer safe and sound.After returning the officers pistol ,unloaded of course, to the officer so as he does not lose face our intrepid pilot once again takes to the skies with the sound of the james bond theme song blaring from speakers in the plane ????????????????????? 1
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