kiterjosh Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Hey guys, I'm looking at buying a drifter but the 503 is well and truly out of hours about 400hrs and over 5 years Just wondering if anybody has a rough cost of overhauling one of these engines. Or where I could locate a second hand one with hours left on it. Any help will be appreciated Thanks Josh
facthunter Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Rotax don't sell them new or support them now. They only deal with the 582. I'd do a bit of googling to try and source parts . Perhaps some snowmobile parts are common.. Nev
fly_tornado Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 You can buy piston kits off eBay, just need to find a machine shop that does 2strokes
JimG Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 I was able to find all the parts I needed on ebay , con rod kit as well. JimG
AVOCET Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 I was able to find all the parts I needed on ebay , con rod kit as well.JimG Are they genuine parts , or Chinese ? I'm doing up a still chainsaw , but the parts on eBay are mostly non genuine . Mike
JimG Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Most are genuine, it takes a bit of digging. I found the model of snow mobile and/or jet ski that has the exact same motor. Then start hunting down the different parts places that stock them. Mostly Canada, i once found a shop that did exchange cranks. I believe it is still out there , you just have to be tenacious in the search. Cheers JimG 1
dazza 38 Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Are they genuine parts , or Chinese ?I'm doing up a still chainsaw , but the parts on eBay are mostly non genuine . Mike What size Stihl saw are you doing up Mike ? The MS170 is made in China but the bigger Stihl saws are still made in Germany.
AVOCET Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 What size Stihl saw are you doing up Mike ? The MS170 is made in China but the bigger Stihl saws are still made in Germany. It's a MS180c I've has it for 14 years , cuts about 5 ton a year Mike
dazza 38 Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 It's a MS180c I've has it for 14 years , cuts about 5 ton a yearMike Nice, I have a 67 cc Husqvarna saw that I bought in 1994. Still goes well.
AVOCET Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 Nice, I have a 67 cc Husqvarna saw that I bought in 1994. Still goes well. I'm gona try one of those Chinese ones for about $250 Is there any such thing as a chainsaw forum ? Actually , I don't really want to know! Mike
dazza 38 Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 I'm gona try one of those Chinese ones for about $250Is there any such thing as a chainsaw forum ? Actually , I don't really want to know! Mike I just bought a Echo 310 ES for pruning as my Husky is way and heavy and big for pruning. They are a professional saw.Warranty is 2 years professional use and 5 years domestic use. They are normally $529 but I bought mine for $299 . Echo have a Australian wide discount deal on ATM but I think it ends on the 31st of this month. They are Japanese made and have a excellent reputation. 30.5 cc and it weighs 4 kg. All the Echo saws are on special ATM maybe worth a look. 1
AVOCET Posted July 29, 2014 Posted July 29, 2014 I just bought a Echo 310 ES for pruning as my Husky is way and heavy and big for pruning. They are a professional saw.Warranty is 2 years professional use and 5 years domestic use. They are normally $529 but I bought mine for $299 . Echo have a Australian wide discount deal on ATM but I think it ends on the 31st of this month. They are Japanese made and have a excellent reputation. 30.5 cc and it weighs 4 kg. All the Echo saws are on special ATM maybe worth a look. I need one that's about the size of a farm boss . A guy in town has one of these Chinese monsters , recons it's all right Q . How's a chainsaw a safety item in aviation A. That's one less tree to hit ! 1 2
flyerme Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 I'm sending my 503 to bert flood for complete overhaul! New crank etc.. About $4000 Seeking genuine parts especially on ebay has become near impossible!! Every thing from china now in made from paper mashae and held together with bits of spaghetti ( they call them bolts)!
skyfox1 Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Not worth that to rebuild for an xtra $1200 you can buy abrand new 582. 1
flyerme Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Not worth that to rebuild for an xtra $1200 you can buy abrand new 582. I wish ! 582 with air filters from bert flood is $6650 including gst( $6820 delivered) Trust me my new lightwing 582 should arrive here tomorrow If I could afford an extra $2500 I would go that way as the 582 with radiator and coolant weighs .4 of a kilo less .how ever the 15 extra hp would require firewall mods on my nieuport - apparently?
flyerme Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 BERT FLOOD IMPORTS AUTHORISED DISTRIBUTOR OF ROTAX AIRCRAFT ENGINES A.B.N. 30 065 480 748 ROTAX ENGINE PRICE LIST July 2014 ROTAX ENGINE TYPE 582 DCDI MOD. 99 $5,820.00 (With Hydro vibration damper.) (With Thermostat.) (With Oil pump for fresh oil lubrication.) NO OIL INJECTION 80.00 OPTIONS “B” TYPE GEARBOX (300002258) 911.00 “C” TYPE GEARBOX (300003…) 1607.00 “E” TYPE GEARBOX (300005…) with integrated electric start 2269.00 ELECTRIC STARTER magneto end (995-925-503) (995-926-582) 827.00 ( pull start not supplied with magneto end electric start ) RADIATOR (SINGLE)(995-699) 453.00 RADIATOR - 2 PIECE HIGH (881-433) 808.00 OVERFLOW BOTTLE (922-327) 43.00 TACHOMETER (IM-104) 207.00 OIL TANK (881-460) 145.00 OIL TANK WITH MOUNTING KIT (881-465) 193.00 RECTIFIER / REGULATOR (264-870) 113.00 AIR INTAKE SILENCER WITH MOUNTING KIT (825-743) 252.00 AIR INTAKE SILENCER NO MOUNTING KIT (825-762) 150.00 AIR FILTER INTAKE SILENCER (825-511) 59.00 AIR FILTER CONICAL (825- 551) RC 1200 46.00 AIR FILTER DUAL (825-723) 582 78.00 AFTER MUFFLER(978-650) 135.00 HAND LEVER CHOKE SET (995-667) 109.00 EXPANSION TANK (922-312) 129.00 WATER OUTLET STRAIGHT (922-025) 28.00 THE ABOVE ENGINE INCLUDES:CARB’S, FUEL PUMP,PULL START, COMPLETE EXHAUST SYSTEM * Prices Subject to Change without Notification * NB. All Prices are Exclusive of G.S.T 17-18 CHRIS DRIVE, LILYDALE VIC 3140 Website: www.bertfloodimports.com.auE-mail: [email protected] P.O. BOX 61, LILYDALE VIC 3140TELEPHONE: (03) 9735 5655 FAX: (03) 9735 5699 1
skyfox1 Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Hi flyerme two of my mates bought two brand new 582 from floods last year and they paid $5200.00 less gear box and exhaust, didn't think they had gone up that much since then. 1
flyerme Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Hi flyerme two of my mates bought two brand new 582 from floods last year and they paid $5200.00 less gear box and exhaust, didn't think they had gone up that much since then. Lucky buggers!
Keith Page Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 I'm sending my 503 to bert flood for complete overhaul! New crank etc..About $4000 Seeking genuine parts especially on ebay has become near impossible!! Every thing from china now in made from paper mashae and held together with bits of spaghetti ( they call them bolts)! If you put another couple of gran with that you will have a new oil injectored blue head 582. Regards KP. 1
flyerme Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 If you put another couple of gran with that you will have a new oil injectored blue head 582.Regards KP. You got a spare couple grand to throw in for me?
Keith Page Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 The number of times I have seen a conglomerate of parts collected up and an engine is assembled. Quite often that conglomerate will shower parts. You could save $2 gran. I know $2gran is a bother to find, however it is some peace of mind that the parts are having the best chance of staying together. Regards KP.
flyerme Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 The number of times I have seen a conglomerate of parts collected up and an engine is assembled.Quite often that conglomerate will shower parts. You could save $2 gran. I know $2gran is a bother to find, however it is some peace of mind that the parts are having the best chance of staying together. Regards KP. I hear ya but unfortunately/apparently the nieuport would require significant modifications to accommodate the extra ponies up front? I too have had this same concern and have spent 2 months in finding an alternative but there's just nothing that will go in there without modifification, after much much debate about low hr s/h or rebuild I decided to have my engine ( 414 hrs) overhauled , having a very clear history of the plane and engine I believe this to be the right decision ? Wal @ bert floods assures me it will be "as good as new" ....? Note modification refers to firewall forward.and/or wing lengthen.
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