bexrbetter Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 This popped up on a Chinese website today, have no idea don't ask me ... 1 1
AVOCET Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 Don't you luv the graphics on the side . Each side in the war depicted the the other as the devil ! Nothing's much changed heh , 1
winsor68 Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 I would guess it's quite a bit later than WW1. Probably 1930's is my guess... 1 2
Bandit12 Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Looks interwar - more streamlined than WWI. Is it just me or does the observer look caucasian? Closest aircraft that I could find with the right sort of specs was the Breguet 14, but it has a distinctive flat cowling with cooling slats, while this one look more radial or rotary.
Old Koreelah Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Surely you're surrounded by translators, Bex. Love that camera. Perhaps some photorecon. people can tell us more.
facthunter Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Rotary's disappeared at the end of WW1. They were very thirsty on fuel and were good at getting you up to height quickly. When the war stopped they faded out.Their "windage" while it kept the engine cooler was a loss of energy and efficiency.. That plane appears to have a "normal" single row radial engine, and layout of about early thirties vintage. Machine gun synchronised with prop might date it a bit. Nev
SDQDI Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 What is the object they are lifting into or out of the plane?
Bandit12 Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Camera I'm pretty sure. The single synchronised gun at the front with the twin Vickers at the rear should help identify it.
Bandit12 Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Looks like it Pete. Turns it out is French, and a contemporary of the Breguet 14 too.
bexrbetter Posted July 31, 2014 Author Posted July 31, 2014 Appears it is a WW1 plane .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmson_2 What is the object they are lifting into or out of the plane? Fried rice, extra large. Obviously this is a delivery service for a Chinese take away. 1
AVOCET Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Rotary's disappeared at the end of WW1. They were very thirsty on fuel and were good at getting you up to height quickly. When the war stopped they faded out.Their "windage" while it kept the engine cooler was a loss of energy and efficiency..That plane appears to have a "normal" single row radial engine, and layout of about early thirties vintage. Machine gun synchronised with prop might date it a bit. Nev Wasn't there a Chinese v Japanese war sometime after ww1 ? 1
M61A1 Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Wasn't there a Chinese v Japanese war sometime after ww1 ? You may be onto something there, at the bottom of the WIKI link it says that the Japanese used them post WWI.
Old Koreelah Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 You may be onto something there, at the bottom of the WIKI link it says that the Japanese used them post WWI. The Japanese were our allies in WWI and the British were very active in helping them build up their naval air power during the 20's and 30's. Surely someone can translate the captions for us.
Marty_d Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 I can't read Chinese but pretty sure it says "1914" on the photo.
bexrbetter Posted August 1, 2014 Author Posted August 1, 2014 China V japan 1937 to 1945Wiki. They fought for 50 years, 1895 to 1945 on and off. 3
Marty_d Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 According to Wiki - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmson_2 "Japan undertook license production as the "Army Type Otsu 1", also known as the Kawasaki-Salmson. The number of aircraft built in Japan is unclear: 300 were built by Kawasaki, and the same quantity by the Imperial Japanese Army's Tokorozawa supply depot, although the total number of aircraft produced may have been as high as 1,000." No mention of China ever using them. It says that they were first delivered in October 1917, and post-war they remained in service until 1924. 1
Old Koreelah Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 They fought for 50 years, 1895 to 1945 on and off. One reason for Aus to stay right out of their current differences.
bexrbetter Posted August 1, 2014 Author Posted August 1, 2014 One reason for Aus to stay right out of their current differences. Unless you live here you can't imagine the seething hatred that Chinese have for Japanese, it's, sadly, even taught in schools far worse than Israel about Germany. Anyone seen supporting Japan puts themselves at risk and the Islands aren't an issue Australia should go anywhere near. 2 2
rankamateur Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 Unless you live here you can't imagine the seething hatred that Chinese have for Japanese Not hard to imagine, much the same as the hatred of Australians taught in indonesia. Yet in Catholic primary schools, at least, our kids are taught to love Indonesians, it's going to be a sadly one-sided relationship for most of them. 1
rankamateur Posted August 1, 2014 Posted August 1, 2014 They fought for 50 years, 1895 to 1945 on and off. Lucky old Korea is wedged right in the middle.
geoffreywh Posted August 2, 2014 Posted August 2, 2014 The "Salmson" bit would refer to the pommie engine it had.......
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