fly_tornado Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 http://www.worldaircraftco.com/surveyor/ looks interesting $80K LSA this is a prototype 2
dazza 38 Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Looks great, and it looks pretty rugged enough to use as a trainer. I guess the next question would be how many students would be happy learning to fly in a open cockpit like that. Like we did learning to fly in Drifters in the good old days. I wonder how much the kit version is going to cost ? Also as the gent said, it will probably be ELSA because the fuselage will be completed at the factory and the kit probably wont make the 51% rule.
fly_tornado Posted August 15, 2014 Author Posted August 15, 2014 All aluminum wing and tailplane with a aluminum over steel frame. should be perfect for training environment. 2
Bob Llewellyn Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 All aluminum wing and tailplane with a aluminum over steel frame. should be perfect for training environment. depends on the fatty gue life under training loads... it's a challenge to get the stress levels low enough in the weight limits...
mnewbery Posted August 15, 2014 Posted August 15, 2014 Exactly. Anyone riding a motorbike would immediately understand this is a good way to train and have waaaaaaay too much fun doing it. 80hp with the same wing area as a drifter and about the same mass would be a winning combination for ab-initio training. North of the Tweed river a least Will there be a tail dragger?
fly_tornado Posted August 15, 2014 Author Posted August 15, 2014 I don't think so, the tricycle gear centralizes the mass, the tail doesn't need to be super rigid. 1
Keenaviator Posted August 16, 2014 Posted August 16, 2014 Like a Drifter, wouldn't like to go through a fence in one - in the front seat anyway.
bexrbetter Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 I'd like to see them get that past the Australia. Prices Justification Tribunal if someone complained, there is no way in the world that airframe can be justified for $60,000+.
Downunder Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 I'd like to see them get that past the Australia. Prices Justification Tribunal if someone complained, there is no way in the world that airframe can be justified for $60,000+. Well there you go Bex...... Your engine, Jab wing, rag and tube tail.......how much? $35 000 fly away....... 1
Cosmick Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Same undercarriage and nose wheel as Savannah and no doubt Spirit and Vision.
fly_tornado Posted August 17, 2014 Author Posted August 17, 2014 Any reason it is so expensive? To discourage Jabiru pilots? Its a pretty good price considering its Rotax 912S powered 1 1
Downunder Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 To discourage Jabiru pilots? Its a pretty good price considering its Rotax 912S powered 80 HP is about $16 000 US retail I think....... 1
dazza 38 Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 It all comes down to what aircraft powered by a 912 can you buy new for the dollars. I think it is pretty good and the Savage Bobby would be a similar cost.
bexrbetter Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Well there you go Bex......Your engine, Jab wing, rag and tube tail.......how much? $35 000 fly away....... .. and all next week!
fly_tornado Posted August 17, 2014 Author Posted August 17, 2014 100HP engine, they are talking about 100MPH cruise speed which is a bit faster than your drifter
Cosmick Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Empty weight is 307+ kg's, same as Savannah with a LOT less bulk, must be constructed using heavier materials and would be very strong. They are developing a wind effective fairing for the pilot but the passenger is sitting in 90kn wind. MTOW 600kg but no storage space
bexrbetter Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Empty weight is 307+ kg's, Holy Dooley, doesn't look it does it.
Kyle Communications Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Note the video says it can be flown to 750kg its design load same as Spirit and Vision....so if you have a RPL you can fly them at those weights
rhysmcc Posted August 17, 2014 Posted August 17, 2014 Note the video says it can be flown to 750kg its design load same as Spirit and Vision....so if you have a RPL you can fly them at those weights Not if it's registered with RA-Aus
Bob Llewellyn Posted August 19, 2014 Posted August 19, 2014 I'd like to see them get that past the Australia. Prices Justification Tribunal if someone complained, there is no way in the world that airframe can be justified for $60,000+. Labour content? the Drifter iswas very labour intensive... 1
Tex Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 Empty weight is 307+ kg's, same as Savannah with a LOT less bulk, must be constructed using heavier materials and would be very strong. They are developing a wind effective fairing for the pilot but the passenger is sitting in 90kn wind. MTOW 600kg but no storage space Yep first thing I though was storage. Increase the front fairing at least and add some storage around the pilot. Wheel track seems quite thin.
Kyle Communications Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 Not if it's registered with RA-Aus Why would it be registered with RAAS when you have a RPL???? The only reason for going to a RPL is to be able to go to that extra design weight that some are made for
rhysmcc Posted August 20, 2014 Posted August 20, 2014 Why would it be registered with RAAS when you have a RPL????The only reason for going to a RPL is to be able to go to that extra design weight that some are made for It's not the license or certificate that would dictate the design weight but the regulation it's registered under, (ie RA-Aus or VH-)
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