Cosmick Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 OK, you guys are the experts, SB582 Vs WB582 1. Speed and glide ratio 2. Empty (Long Range Tank) / MTOW 3. Strength G's +/- 4. Pro's and Cons
Tex Posted February 13, 2015 Posted February 13, 2015 SB Faster by about 5kts, at cruise but slightly heavier than WB, still better climb WOT in SB . Empty SB weight about 250. WB not much less (if any) depend on the specifc aircraft but maybe 5kg less. WB is stronger but you would not want to test either to its limit I think they are both +4 -2 both strong enough - normal flying no issue. No need to be ducking wires all the time in a SB a nuisance when loading up the back seat IMO on WB... but not a big deal. SB land a bit longer, float a bit further and so need a bit more work to grease it on - the wires on the WB make it tend to settle on faster (drag). Glide ratio a bit better in the SB because lower parasitic drag. Buy either, I would just depends what is available at the time! THEN Go fly like I am about too... SB or WB doesn't matter just pick a good one. Skins and Engine is the first consideration on cost then overall condition and times etc Still a WB 912 would be my pick! Better economy but enough power to drive it harder and the wires make for better short landings.
Cosmick Posted February 14, 2015 Author Posted February 14, 2015 thanks Tex, co both about 270kg dry and 450kg meow so about 180 kg all up carry ?
Downunder Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 Not sure if height can be a problem on wb, as in getting it into hangars. I know the wb trikes need quite a bit of height .
Patrick Normoyle Posted February 14, 2015 Posted February 14, 2015 I. Not sure where you are getting the weight numbers from but my Fisher Mk 1 on floats is just 225kg, and without floats its 185kg, a mate one hangar over has a strut braced 582 and from memory it is in the 250kg range.
zyg Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 Spot on Pat,SB582 55 0746 empty weight 251 kg mtow 450.Also reluctantly thinking of selling due to usual reasons,840 hrs 3 owners,L2 maintained,$23k.Cheers,Zyg. 1
Cosmick Posted February 15, 2015 Author Posted February 15, 2015 I. Not sure where you are getting the weight numbers from but my Fisher Mk 1 on floats is just 225kg, and without floats its 185kg, a mate one hangar over has a strut braced 582 and from memory it is in the 250kg range. Figures from WB example sheet in Austflight Manual - AUSTFLIGHT ULA Pty Ltd DRIFTER SB - 582 SECTION 6 CASA APPROVED WEIGHT BALANCE AND EQUIPMENT Drifter SB - 582 ITEM Registration - 55 - 6.7 EXAMPLE CALCULATION The following example demonstrates the use of the form. BASIC EMPTY CONDITION 271 FRONT SEAT PILOT 70 FRONT SEAT BALLAST -693 REAR SEAT PILOT 65 428 27,820 OTHER. ZERO FUEL CONDITION 406 506 205,570 896 18,099 336 7,997 REAR TANK 30L x 0.72 20,2 AUXILIARYTANK 40Lx0.72 23,8 TOTAL 450 515 231,666 Zero fuel condition is within limits. Total loaded condition is within limits. (32.9% MAC) (33.4% MAC) Issued March 15th, 1996 Page 6-8 WEIGHT X ARM = MOMENT kg mm kg*mm 835 226,260 Interested in the Aircraft but 180kg not a lot to work with, 200kg a lot better
Tex Posted February 15, 2015 Posted February 15, 2015 270 is way heavy.... As I said and the others also 250 - 255 is about where an empty SB should weigh ... WB a bit less becaus less sleeving in the wing and stut weight. Theses are Austflight 55 reg I mean. If an aircraft you are looking at weighs 270 it needs to go on a diet or there is something wrong.... That is an example, each AC needs its own WB. Nearly 200kg payload isn't so bad.
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