The True Definition of Political Correctness

[Guest john]

The following details are direct transcripts from 4 telegrams communicated between by Harry Truman & Douglas MacArthur on the day before signing the Surrender Agreement in 1945 to end the Second World War & not a word from these telegrams has been added or deleted.

 

1. Tokyo, Japan, @0800-1.9.1945, To: President Harry S Truman, From: General Douglas D A MacArthur.

 

Tomorrow we meet with those yellow bellied bxstards & sign the Surrender Documents, any last minute instructions?

 

2. Washington DC, @1300, 1.9.1945, To: D A MacArthur, From: HS Truman

 

Congratulations, job well done, but you must tone down your obvious dislike of the Japanese when discussing the terms of the surrender with the press, because some of your remarks are fundamentally not politically correct.

 

3. Tokyo, Japan, @1630-1.9.1945, To: HS Truman, From D A MacArthur & C H Nimitz.

 

Wilco Sir, but both Chester & I are somewhat confused, exactly what does the term politically correct mean?

 

4. Washington DC, @ 2120, 1.9.1945, To: D A MacArthur,C H Nimitz, From: H S Truman.

 

Political Correctness is a doctrine, recently fostered by a delusional , illogical minority & promoted by a sick mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shxt by the clean end.

 

Now that we are all informed as to Harry S Trumans definition of Political Correctness way back on 1.9.1945, lets hope on ANZAC DAY this may give the 'DOGOODERS & BLEEDING HEARTS' OF THIS GENERATION throughout the world something to sincerely think about, otherwise we could now be all sowing rice in paddy fields, & pulling rickshaws.

 

 

[fly_tornado]

we <3 racism

 

 

[turboplanner]

What a load of bullsh!t!!!!!!

 

General Macarthur was in charge of the occupation of Japan and within days had groups of people waiting to see him go out for lunch so they could pay their respects, and within months he was a hero to the people of Japan for the empathy he showed in his day to day dealings.

 

It was largely due to his understanding of the people and country and the new constitution he gave them that turned Japan into the powerhouse we see today.

 

 

[Birdseye]

Stories of this sort I always check out on "Snopes".

 

Yes it is bull.

 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/trumanpc.asp

 

 

[Head in the clouds]

I find a lot of what 'john' posts, purporting to be humour, to be thoroughly objectionable. Is this really the sort of content we want on a recreational flying forum? Moderators?

 

 

[fly_tornado]

casual racism is funny, apparently

 

 

[Geoff13]

Not much point reporting racist posts on here.

 

 

[cscotthendry]

I love the quote that someone here uses as their tagline

 

"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." - Abe Lincoln.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

...lets hope on ANZAC DAY this may give the 'DOGOODERS & BLEEDING HEARTS' OF THIS GENERATION the world something to sincerely think about, otherwise we could now be all sowing rice in paddy fields, & pulling rickshaws.

How tired I am of the bullsh1t dished up about The War.

 

Did Japan intend to invade Australia? Debatable. They just wanted their chance to build an empire like the Europeans had, and wanted us to keep out of their way.

 

Our side won and my generation grew up immersed in movies about how we won the war. So many true stories were left out of that.

 

As if mate ship was unique to our troops. As if our blokes were without blemish. We were never told about the vast contribution of India.

 

Fact: the Japanese were pushed into war by the attitude of western nations. (This is not to excuse the appalling atrocities they committed and which their government now denies.)

 

Fact: Australia's PM Billy Hughes (who our media called "the little digger") was responsible for enormous human suffering. As well as revelling in the waste of life on The Western Front, he was a major cause of WWII.

 

How? His insistence, at the Versailles Conference, on Germany paying crippling reparations doomed Germany to economic chaos which led to the rise of Nazism.

 

Japan was our loyal ally during The Great War; Japanese warships protected our troop ships. Yet after that war Hughes refused to recognise their contribution nor treat them as equals. Moderate Japanese diplomats were humiliated on the world stage, allowing Japan's militarists to take over.

 

If we are ignorant of the lesson of history we are doomed to repeat them.

 

 

[Birdseye]

I think the point here is if posting at all, at least make it:

 

• Humorous
   
   
  
• Original
   
   
  
• Informative
   
   
  
• Aviation related
   
   
  

 

 

 

Otherwise a toilet cubicle is a more appropriate place to put it. As the post fell short of any of those points, it should be put where all crap belongs (SMH). Any subsequent historical/hysterical posts only serve to do it justice.

 

 

[Marty_d]

Half my work team are Chinese along with an Indian bloke and they're a fantastic bunch of people. The age of racist jokes should be well and truly over. The Japanese bloke you slag off might have lived here for 4 generations and be more "Australian" than you.

 

 

[Geoff13]

As phil who cooks the best Laksa in Brissy down at eat street says. He is ABC his father was ABC and his son is ABhalfC. ABC is Australian Born Chinese.

 

 

[bexrbetter]

Our side won and my generation grew up immersed in movies about how we won the war. So many true stories were left out of that. As if our blokes were without blemish.

My ex-workmate had a letter in his possession from his Grandfather to his Grandmother telling of an incident he participated in while in Nth Africa. They had captured some Italians after a firefight and apparently because of low food and water reserves and the need to move on quickly themselves, they were ordered to execute them. But here's the rub, they were also low on ammo and were ordered to do it with their bayonets.

 

How? His insistence, at the Versailles Conference, on Germany paying crippling reparations doomed Germany to economic chaos which led to the rise of Nazism.

No, you are mistaken, that was the Paris "Peace" Conference silly, only good things happened there.

 

The economic strangling of Germany by France and England that led to WW2, besides not often getting mentioned and certainly not taught at schools, almost never mentions who the debt collectors were. But that would be antisemitism rather than simply being the truth - and illegal in some countries, unbelievable.

 

 

[fly_tornado]

America's blockade of Japanese oil imports led to Japan's entry, but that was the American response to Japan invading China in 1937.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

America's blockade of Japanese oil imports led to Japan's entry, but that was the American response to Japan invading China in 1937.

Quite true FT. By that stage, given their pig-headed nationalism, the end result was inevitable. Had the west allowed Japan into their "club" things may have been different. Moderate politicians might have steered Japan away from war. Instead, they were humiliated by the west and militarists murdered their way into power, then set their country on a course for disaster.

Given this historic lesson, G W Bush should have avoided uncorking the powder keg that is Mid East ethnic politics.

 

 

[fly_tornado]

GW prayed after 9/11 and Jesus said it was time to whoop som' asse

 

 

[bexrbetter]

America's blockade of Japanese oil imports led to Japan's entry, but that was the American response to Japan invading China in 1937.

Yes but you do understand that the Japs were already there.

 

The English and the Japs with a smatterings of others, were controlling a lot of economic areas and worse, allowing Americans to buy up all the rice for export paying stupid prices that led to millions of Chinese peasants starving to death.

 

This is how/why Mao and Communism got to power and why rice in restaurants is still free to this day.

 

Large chunks of the last 150 years of Chinese history is something the West should be ashamed of - no excuse for some of the blood on Mao's hands though, but if you know the history you can understand what led him to some of the thinking behind it all.

 

 

[turboplanner]

Quite true FT. By that stage, given their pig-headed nationalism, the end result was inevitable. Had the west allowed Japan into their "club" things may have been different. Moderate politicians might have steered Japan away from war. Instead, they were humiliated by the west and militarists murdered their way into power, then set their country on a course for disaster.Given this historic lesson, G W Bush should have avoided uncorking the powder keg that is Mid East ethnic politics.

Can't you even read to the end of the sentence OK before getting on your hobby horse. What the Japanese did in China in 1937 was inhuman.

 

 

[bexrbetter]

Can't you even read to the end of the sentence OK before getting on your hobby horse. What the Japanese did in China in 1937 was inhuman.

I think we all know and agree without exaggeration what the Japanese did during the war to any Nation was pretty damn awful by any standards of decency.

 

Saw a film just a few weeks ago of one Japanese soldier throwing Chinese children into the air to a group of Japanese soldiers in competition to see who could catch them on their bayonets. Imagine what they didn't film.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

Can't you even read to the end of the sentence OK before getting on your hobby horse. What the Japanese did in China in 1937 was inhuman.

What did I miss Turbs?

 

 

[turboplanner]

Er, the end of the sentence.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

Er, the end of the sentence.

I am totally mystified by your comments; please be a little less cryptic and explain, with evidence, what you object to.

 

 

[turboplanner]

In #14 the end of the sentence reads: "America's response to Japan invading China"

 

Your #15 goes off at the usual tangent.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

Tangent? I was aware of Japan having invaded China. Japan would have viewed America's objections with some cynicism, because the USA itself had invaded China a few decades beforehand, causing enormous loss of life.

 

Japan is in denial about it's war crimes in Asia. So is the USA.

 

 

[bexrbetter]

So is the USA.

More about the mess they left even for the countries they were helping.

 

Actually China is very grateful for America's help against the Japanese in China, often specials on about it and the gratitude would probably surprise Americans.

 

Was an hour long special on the Flying Tigers the other week, showed the old airfield with the big stone runway rollers still there, not so far from me actually, might go look for it one day.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Tigers