EFI done easy

[jetjr]

Yep hes right re $700usd

 

No dynon dont do a pickup, this one is made locally, its a 3 wire, not sure on output, dynon likes its input though

 

Ill ask Ian, its around $150 all up. It nicely fits at the back making wiring easier

 

 

[terryc]

It needs to be under AUS$1000 total and that is INCLUDING the freight and any insurance the total to be under 1000 aussie...so basically US$700 inc freight and insurance otherwise we get nailed for GST and any import duty on the top of that amount

no import duty on aviation related items.

 

 

[Guest rv6ejguy]

The tax man always gets you somehow...

 

You'd be breaking it into 4 shipments to get it down below that threshold. The shipping costs would eat up all the tax savings unfortunately. Seems the best bet would be to buy as much hardware such as sensors, injectors, bosses, pumps, regulators, TBs etc., locally, build your own looms. The trimmable ECU and programmer are nearly $1200US alone though.

 

 

[Guest rv6ejguy]

Well no duty on aviation stuff is good but they get you with the GST always I guess.

 

 

[jetjr]

Not if under $1000 AUD, imported exempt

 

A surprisingly sensible rule as it cost more to retrieve it than its worth.

 

Local retailers desperately trying to level the field by having it charged on everything

 

 

[Guest rv6ejguy]

They get us for GST on anything over $20 imported and we have to import most things because so few things are made here anymore.

 

 

[onetrack]

Note to Aussies - Get your smaller overseas purchases done before 1st July 2017, as the Federal Govt has initiated a plan to abolish the under-$1000 GST exemption on imports, and collect GST on all imported items from the above date.

 

There's been an agreement put in place between all State Treasurers, the Federal Treasurer, and the ATO to put systems into place to collect the GST on all small purchases, and the public servants are currently working on the regulatory details and procedures.

 

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2015/08/all-goods-bought-overseas-to-incur-10-per-cent-gst-charge/

 

However, the nuts-and-bolts of the scheme are yet to be finalised. There's a slight problem involved in getting overseas suppliers to comply with AU tax requirements.

 

It's virtually impossible for the Govt to insist on overseas-based companies to become registered for Australian GST collection.

 

The only way they can tax small items is by stopping every parcel and examining its contents, and extracting the tax from you, before you collect it.

 

You can well imagine what this will do to parcel times - and the cost of instituting this regime is going to be a thorn in the side of the economics for the profitability of collecting the GST on a myriad of small items.

 

No doubt, some high level public servant is currently working on some scheme that throws the burden of proving the actual purchase cost, onto you, the buyer - by making you provide an invoice for the value of the goods, prior to collection of your parcel.

 

The whole scheme is fraught with problems - not the least, the economics of collecting the GST on multiple millions of imported small items annually - and it does appear likely the start date may be pushed back. Hopefully, forever. It's already bad enough, coping with the current poor AUD$ exchange rate, without having GST added to everything under $1000.

 

 

[fly_tornado]

calm down, the retailer has to apply the GST on the purchase, so ebay, apple, google, amazon, netflix etc. are now collecting GST.

 

 

[onetrack]

Since when has this been in place? And how does the ATO extract the GST from the above-mentioned overseas-based companies? These corporates won't install procedures to apply tax and remit it, without being re-imbursed for their effort.

 

Tax collection for a foreign Govt, is a cost burden they have to transfer onto their buyers or sellers, so how does that work out?

 

 

[facthunter]

Situation NORMAL. YOU are getting screwed. This is to placate the likes of Gerry Harvey. Nev

 

 

[fly_tornado]

Since when has this been in place? And how does the ATO extract the GST from the above-mentioned overseas-based companies? These corporates won't install procedures to apply tax and remit it, without being re-imbursed for their effort.Tax collection for a foreign Govt, is a cost burden they have to transfer onto their buyers or sellers, so how does that work out?

have a read, the gov is really only chasing big business not smaller retailers

 

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/gst-set-to-apply-to-all-imports-into-australia-from-july-2017-20150821-gj4vg7.html

 

 

[jetjr]

Do you think the oversea supplier is going to submit BAS for free?

 

Most will just say they dont export to AU anymore

 

Holding freight happens now for shipments over $1000, its why freight costs to AU are expensive

 

 

[onetrack]

have a read, the gov is really only chasing big business not smaller retailers

There are two sayings that come to mind here ...

 

Seeing as the SMH article is from August last year - the saying, is - "a week is a long time in politics".

 

Hockey and Abbott are essentially history, and so are a lot of their schemes. Turnbull is an unknown, and facing an election shortly - and the Govts decisions during the rest of 2016 and into 2017 could produce a lot of changes.

 

Re the 2nd saying ..... the arrangements to implement and collect the GST on all online transactions is going to take years, and will need a lot of Chinese companies to support it ...... "Good luck with that, Pal!"

 

 

[fly_tornado]

Australian government doesn't have the physical resources or staff to be stopping every parcel under AU$1000. The weak dollar has killed off a lot of overseas purchases now anyhow!

 

 

[Kyle Communications]

What will happen is all mail will go to a depot...you will be sent a notice saying you have a overseas parcel to collect please front up with your paperwork such as invoices and pay the gst when you pick it up. For those that are too far away you will have to provide proof re copied documents then mailed to them with CC details and when they get to it in their time and you are charged the fees then it will come in the mail. Sort of like the old days when overseas parcels came in you had to front at customs and supply all the documents and pay then you get it. Or employ a import agent to do it for you

 

 

[fly_tornado]

madness, you know how much paperwork that would create?

 

The gov have already said that they are asking major overseas retailers to "voluntarily" register to collect GST. Any corporation that has an office in Australia is going to comply.

 

 

[Kyle Communications]

Its the way it always was done previously....this was the process for getting goods into australia no matter the cost. Then it was sales tax and if the sales tax amounted to more than 50 bucks you got nailed

 

 

[bexrbetter]

Situation NORMAL. YOU are getting screwed. This is to placate the likes of Gerry Harvey. Nev

Nonsense, why should you pay 10% tax at Harvey Norman's and not when the same item comes from another Country's retailer? It's a fair complaint and, as it is now, is hurting Oz businesses. Harvey's have a legitimate complaint, they don't get the 10%, and further, they have to pay someone to do the work on behalf of the Government.

 

Its the way it always was done previously....this was the process for getting goods into australia no matter the cost. Then it was sales tax and if the sales tax amounted to more than 50 bucks you got nailed

Exactly, I used to import lots of small stuff to resell, I would get a notice from Customs and have to pay duty and tax. I would bitch to them because the duty was added first, then taxed on the total, that's not fair.

 

 

[Guest rv6ejguy]

The government here collects GST on imports at the border. They have no problem hiring more government workers to collect that tax and so the circle becomes ever larger. I wouldn't colllect GST for the Aussie government, I'd just stop shipping product there as others have suggested. I'm a manufacturer, not a tax collector for foreign governments. A sad state of affairs when we are all taxed like this and most governments waste that money with abandon on stupid projects. I guess people need to speak up and say no to all this if you can.

 

 

[jetjr]

The unfairness is understood but as a taxpayer I dont want to subsidise them by spending more collecting border tax than it generates. Also building a new branch of bureaucracy to oversee and administer it.

 

As we often say the cost benefit has to be evaluated.

 

Id suggest as USD strengthens back to normal rates, the small imports will slow to a trickle.

 

Local retailers need to deliver service and support to justify the sometimes 50- 100% or more price differences. Customers NEED to understand that if they do not buy things locally these imported products will only be available by direct import and get used to having no warranty or ACCC support.

 

This warranty and consumer laws adds lots of cost to products sold here.

 

 

[Tucano]

Small Imports will not really slow - we make nothing and everything for an aircraft is imported from a washer upwards.

 

We run a distributorship ship and are highly competitive on price with our most popular item begin about 20% dearer than from a US discounter including GST and with the correct AU power supply - is amazing how many people want that saving and also seem to be able to find us when the hardware fails.

 

In a submission to the Productivity Comission we asked why the AU Banks current 3.0% transaction fee could not become 13% - No card - No transaction. In defense of the banks they have had to increase it to 3.5% to cover all their losses on the collection of their fee - very christian of them

 

 

[Guest rv6ejguy]

Software is now complete and we're finishing bench testing on the individual cylinder fuel trim option for 6 cylinder engines this week and will be continuing with engine testing after that before going on to further engine testing later in August.

 

This will be a twin ECU board offering, with backup and a new relay switching box to go with the system. We believe that this option will be available sometime in September if all goes smoothly.

 

This is mainly aimed at Lycoming 540/580 engines at the moment but would be applicable to Continental and Jabiru sixes as well.

 

 

[rv6ejguy]

Thought you folks might be interested in our latest development on an EFI kit for the venerable O-200 engine. Our prototype setup is running on the test stand now: [MEDIA=vimeo]221821595[/MEDIA]

 

This does fuel and ignition control, eliminating the mags. Uses many of the same components as the Lycoming kits.

 

 

[Downunder]

Thanks. Always good to see your posts.

 

One question about your ignition systems.

 

On 4 cyl engines, I see they are made for four plugs. Is it possible to get 8 plugs with the one controller?

 

Most of the pics I've seen have 2 panel controllers. I take it, these are dual systems for redundancy? (4 cyl each).

 

 

[Kyle Communications]

RVguy the website isnt working ...do you still have it?