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Poor old Oshkosh has its share of accidents every year, we do not hear about them all the time.

 

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KP.

 

 

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Yes, always at least one each year. Two the last time i went. Fortunately at this stage no one killed. Have to be on the ball here. High traffic and at peak times three aircraft landing at the same time on the same runway. It is not the place to learn how your aircraft handles when you have to slow right up and do a few S turns to keep a bit of air between you and the guy in front. Majority are high performance with nasty low speed traits.

 

But if you are going to spank in then Air Venture is the place to do it with all the response teams they have.Hope the rest of the event is accident free.

 

 

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Poor old Oshkosh has its share of accidents every year, we do not hear about them all the time.Regards

KP.

Pretty hard for them not to be reported with half a million people at the airfield watching. They get reported. But the Americans are far more pragmatic about flying. It's a risk. Accidents happen. Learn from them and move on.

Was a prang with deaths last year when I was there - but there were also as many aircraft there as on the entire Australian register and more take offs and landings from that one field in the week than in Australia.

 

 

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The day after the crash I went to the "Was it Really Worth it" seminar. I had no idea who was giving the talk, but it turned out to be Greg Feith, ex NTSB (as seen on TV on high profile accidents)

 

The first thing he said was; Who has heard about yesterdays accident? He went on to give details of what had happened and asked us all to consider the cause. Turned us all into investigators right there, without anyone seeing the crash site. Fantastic talk.

 

Obviously (as he stated) we have to wait for the authorities to complete thier findings but he didn't see any reason not to discuss and learn from possible causes. Human Factors. Following the Air Traffic Controllers directions without allowing for aircraft limitations.

 

Summary: He should have flown the aircraft and completed a go-around instead.

 

If in doubt, level wings and fly the aircraft out of there.

 

 

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He also said the biggest killer at the moment is electronics

 

Whatever you have in the cockpit, learn everything you can about it.

 

Also, know how to fly your aircraft without it!

 

 

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Sorry ...... should have said Technology rather than electronics.

 

 

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We know what you mean. Perhaps eyes outside the cockpit too. Wouldn't be the first time fixation on a controllers RT distracted from the essential FLY THE PLANE. Aviate, Navigate, Communicate in that order of priority, PLUS , YOU are the PIC ,IF you can't comply with the instructions say. Negative, REQUIRE xyz (IF you have time)otherwise DO xyz. Nev

 

 

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Listen only at Airventure you don't reply other than an identifying wing rock at the arrival point. Those that have done the trip before usually try to arrive with other types that fly at the same speed. slotting in behind something that flies 20 kts slower on approach is asking for trouble.

 

 

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I should have taken it up with the skipper of the DC 6b behind me in an Auster J1 n at Sydney KS in the early 60's on rwy 16. my approach speed was above normal cruise. Nev

 

 

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