Piet Fil Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 Does anyone know whether you can get an audio copy of your "mayday" call post the incident? If you can, how and who do you contact to get a copy. I would like the opportunity to listen to my call to see what lessons I can learn from it. thanks in advance PHIL
turboplanner Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 I think you can Phil, not sure where to start.
SDQDI Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 Depends on what frequency you broadcast it on. If it was on bris or melb centre I would say a call to air services would take you a long way to getting it, provided they are allowed to do it. It can do no harm to give them a ring and ask, from what I have seen they all seem very friendly and helpful and I'm sure they would know where to start.
Robbo Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 What freq and location? See if there is a feed at liveatc.net and then search the archive. I see your location is Canberra so if you called Canberra there is a feed https://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=yscb so you could search the archive. 1 1
ben87r Posted August 26, 2015 Posted August 26, 2015 As robbo has mentioned, live atc (or other websites) hold recordings, that's how Pepole im aware of have done it.
dutchroll Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Not actually sure that it's legal for Airservices to release ATC tapes except for investigative or direct safety related purposes. Sites like LiveATC get their recordings from a network of people who operate scanners. They're not original source recordings.
facthunter Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 It most likely would exist, and probably for a fair time. For a long time it's been produced for inclusion in investigations and the CVR, Radar and FDR are all combined on a time elapse sheet where the factors possibly relevent to the investigation are shown. I think the CVR only goes for about and hour and then taped over .Nev
frank marriott Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 The question begs why? A situation occurs, "continue flying the aeroplane", declare emergency (6 words), then whilst "continuing to fly the aeroplane" provide any/all relevant details you have. Relevant details is the key - as in some position reports, I am not interested in what the pilot had for breakfeast. 1
facthunter Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 The OLD sequence Aviate, Navigate, Communicate in that order of priority. Fly, Point and tell someone about it.. If you muck up the first two getting the last one perfect won't help a lot. Monitor a useful frequency when you can. Have them on the flight plan, as you certainly can't count on having time to look it up. Nev
Piet Fil Posted August 27, 2015 Author Posted August 27, 2015 Frank, The reason why is whilst I was aviating and navigating, I still had about four and a half minutes of engine failure, glide time to make my mayday call. I wish to make sure I was succinct and didn't distract MEL CTR with superfluous info "ie: what I had for breakfast". Funnily enough as any trainer can tell you one of the best ways to improve performance is to both self and professionally debrief on your performance, particularly when it's done under a pressure situation. Whilst I can tell you what I think I said in the mayday call, And I certainly know the message I was trying to get across to MEL CTR. it may be my mind under stress not recalling things clearly. If there is an opportunity to review what I said and how I expressed myself and improve my airmanship I think that is exactly what the aviation journey is meant to be about. I hope this explains why I asked a simple question Phil 2 4
rhysmcc Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Give them a call and ask. Tell them it's part of your post incident review. Worst case they say they can't. It most likely would exist, and probably for a fair time. For a long time it's been produced for inclusion in investigations and the CVR, Radar and FDR are all combined on a time elapse sheet where the factors possibly relevent to the investigation are shown. I think the CVR only goes for about and hour and then taped over .Nev Tapes are only kept for 30 days unless they have been saved as part of an investigation. 1 1
frank marriott Posted August 27, 2015 Posted August 27, 2015 Frank,The reason why is whilst I was aviating and navigating, I still had about four and a half minutes of engine failure, glide time to make my mayday call. I wish to make sure I was succinct and didn't distract MEL CTR with superfluous info "ie: what I had for breakfast". Funnily enough as any trainer can tell you one of the best ways to improve performance is to both self and professionally debrief on your performance, particularly when it's done under a pressure situation. Whilst I can tell you what I think I said in the mayday call, And I certainly know the message I was trying to get across to MEL CTR. it may be my mind under stress not recalling things clearly. If there is an opportunity to review what I said and how I expressed myself and improve my airmanship I think that is exactly what the aviation journey is meant to be about. I hope this explains why I asked a simple question Phil No worries, whatever helps you - Everyone has a slightly different approach, but who is say which one is better, everyone is an individual. 1 1
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