Plane Down

[Robbo]

forget about CASA he will be trying to live with that for the rest of his life... Poor or stupid fella made a bad or terrrible call and will pay for it forever on a personal level, as will her family and freinds.

 

CASA will be the least of his problems

You don't know the exact circumstances so I would refrain from calling him stupid. I found out a couple of days ago I have actually met the girl who lost her life through a mate, from the quick hello she seemed like an awesome chick who loved flying.

 

 

[DrZoos]

Not implying hes stupid, i said bad or stupid call... Im not judging just saying casa will be least of his concerns

 

I wasnt there and dont know, nor does any one else... I feel deeply for all invokved

 

 

[poteroo]

Instructing isn't just about teaching a student the fundamentals. It's also teaching them to think about all of the variables involved with each flight. Eventually - they are off solo. Each and every solo is another stressful event for the caring and cautious instructor. It's not a lightly made decision.

 

I feel empathy with every instructor whose current student suffers an accident. Our society is inclined to look for someone, or something, to blame for every aviation accident and incident. It begs the question though - why are we so much less concerned about the carnage on our roads? It's not as though the flying instructor doesn't already feel devastated. Many never instruct again. I hope in this case that the instructor is not crucified and is given full support.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

Instructing isn't just about teaching a student the fundamentals. It's also teaching them to think about all of the variables involved with each flight. Eventually - they are off solo. Each and every solo is another stressful event for the caring and cautious instructor. It's not a lightly made decision.I feel empathy with every instructor whose current student suffers an accident. Our society is inclined to look for someone, or something, to blame for every aviation accident and incident. It begs the question though - why are we so much less concerned about the carnage on our roads? It's not as though the flying instructor doesn't already feel devastated. Many never instruct again. I hope in this case that the instructor is not crucified and is given full support.

Wise words comrade. My rescue squad attended a double fatal road accident on Saturday arvo and I have yet to see anything about it in the media. This is normal, yet any aircraft mishap gets prime coverage. Were the driver trainers held responsible for the road accident? Was there a debate about the safety of that brand of car?

 

 

[Pearo]

As I suggested earlier, I was due to do a solo nav the day after said accident. In my case, initially the CFI was dubious because of the forecast of severe turbulence. Forecast said turbulance was supposed to burn off by 1000hrs local, and I was supposed to be EOBT at 1200hrs local. I was delayed because the aircraft I was booked in had a faulty intercom and only had one functional com. Switched aircraft and left 1 hour later. I was lucky, flew with same CFI in moderate turbulence 2 navs prior and spent the whole time arguing with the plane just trying to maintain altitude. So I was wheels up 3 hours after forecast turbulence was supposed to be gone, but when I got airborne I knew it was more than I could handle only because of the prior flight with the CFI.

 

In my case, a stubborn student would have persisted, and would have completed the nav. Me, I am pushing 40 years old and not chasing a CPL career, and I have no desire to be flying in conditions I dont care to be in. Different mentality. The forecast may say one thing, but when you are up there it may be a different situation altogether.

 

I was beating myself up for not doing that nav, all the instructors are applauding my descision.

 

 

[Montymagic]

Very unuck indeed. Condolences to the family

 

After seeing aerial footage of the accident scene, I located the accident site on Google Earth, and can only say she was incredibly unlucky. THe ground she appears to have collided with is the only rased ground around that area. The plane came down in a low cup of earth capped with trees, a very unique landmark. See the attached images. The arrow shows direction of travel, X the impact spot and the star is the location from which the Street View was taken.General locality.

 

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Overhead.

 

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Street View.

 

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[diesel]

landable too if she was near the deck and could see. I notice on youtube that a lot of pilots fly in the junk 100 ft below the main cloudbase. blind as and should not be up there. Who really knows? Sad loss for all.

 

 

[Robbo]

Not implying hes stupid, i said bad or stupid call

 

 

stupid fella made a bad or terrrible call

[DrZoos]

Fair call, poorly worded, its not what I meant.