Pearo Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 I think there may be a couple of issues here. Also, I believe the class of airspace has no relevance as to how you conduct yourself on the ground. Just stating class G, because D and C you need explicit permission to enter the runway. 1
kaz3g Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 [quote="DrZoos, post: 515497, member: 9194 Yesterday A fellow pilot did exactly that and followed them...they stopped...turned around and wanted to exit the runway due to a breach of company policy...causing him to also have ot exit the runway... It seems to me that: The company needs to be told by the ARO that it can't impose its policy on private aircraft Unless the company is operating large twins that would make it uncomfortable for a following aircraft as power was applied there is no safety reason to prevent two aircraft backtracking in tandem If the company isn't comfortable with a following aircraft being behind it at the keys then it would be reasonable for it to accept a following aircraft backtracking behind the company aircraft and then that following aircraft turning first at about 50 metres before the company aircraft and commencing its takeoff run in the No1 position rather than No2. The quoted action by the company aircraft did constitute a safety risk Kaz 1
Happyflyer Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Thanks guys this is what i thought.,. Our runway is massive, wide and has a huge turn around area at the southern end where three to four GA could easily turn around together...two taxiing aircraft can also pass easily side by side...and with 1800m we have plenty of length...this is part of the problem its about a 1600m backtrack.It used to work perfect and now is an absolute quagmire ...because of one stupid inconsiderate "company policy" Yesterday A fellow pilot did exactly that and followed them...they stopped...turned around and wanted to exit the runway due to a breach of company policy...causing him to also have ot exit the runway... Why did the following aircraft have to also exit if the runway is "massive, wide" and "two taxing aircraft can also easily pass side by side'? Why didn't he just pass and continue backtrack? 1
DrZoos Posted September 14, 2015 Author Posted September 14, 2015 Why did the following aircraft have to also exit if the runway is "massive, wide" and "two taxing aircraft can also easily pass side by side'? Why didn't he just pass and continue backtrack? Lack of confidence in passing as the aircraft that did a uturn was in the middle of the runway facing him
Happyflyer Posted September 14, 2015 Posted September 14, 2015 Lack of confidence in passing as the aircraft that did a uturn was in the middle of the runway facing him Looks like very unprofessional conduct by the flying school aircraft. Both aircraft should have moved to their right to allow passing, basic give way rule.
KRviator Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 Lack of confidence in passing as the aircraft that did a uturn was in the middle of the runway facing him And herein lies a fundamental issue: You have pilots dispatched for solo operations, who do not know basic air law, or how to conduct operations safely at an uncontrolled airport. Ol' mate who followed them did nothing wrong, and for the student to want to do something inherently stupid due to alack of training is dangerous. RepCon anyone? 1
DrZoos Posted September 15, 2015 Author Posted September 15, 2015 There was an instructor in that training aircraft...so it was a decision by the instructor
rhysmcc Posted September 15, 2015 Posted September 15, 2015 And what's so dangerous about asking to taxi back to allow getting off the runway?
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