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What if car and aircraft design melded into something special.

 

Not a flying car but using the best ideas from aircraft aerodynamics and blending that into car design. Anything that takes todays blandboxes and throws away the molds would be good.

 

I love polished alloy- a personal fetish, but any type of suitable material is cool.

 

Here are some fantastic pics of a concept design for the next generation of F1 cars.

 

The new cars will be fully enclosed for much greater driver/pilot safety.

 

The execution is beautiful to my eye, it has a very jet fighter look about it. Gone are all the weirdness of the current cars and something that now is Sex, Speed and Ground effect hugging, G slaping fun.

 

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There is so much to love about this design.

 

 

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those F1 cars do nothing for me. The best F1 cars were in the 50s, open wheelers, with Jack brabham drifting them around corners. What I would really like is an updated version of a car I used to own. A 1934 Riley Kestrel. That was one of the most beautiful cars in my opinion, better than the E type jag by a long way.

 

 

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Sure is Sexy.

 

Hopefully this will bring back the beauty in car design- not damn brutalism or a half sucked lolly effect.

 

Back to a bit of elegance in design- like the sexy 50-60s italian stuff.

 

Like this Alfa Disco Volante, beautiful but lifted her skirt at speed- the design made too much lift at race speeds. The car was intended as a race car for Targa floria, Mille Migilia etc

 

Besides the looks it was a tube spaceframe and alloy panels, more aircraft inspiration.

 

 

 

If not for the lift at speed it would have been very fast.

 

 

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What I would really like is an updated version of a car I used to own. A 1934 Riley Kestrel. That was one of the most beautiful cars in my opinion, better than the E type jag by a long way.

My neighbor has two of those. Very nice looking cars.
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Did the Kestrel have a pair of windows in the boot lid ?, Yen.

 

I didn't know the year of the one I saw.

 

spacesailor

 

 

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Did the Kestrel have a pair of windows in the boot lid ?, Yen.I didn't know the year of the one I saw.

spacesailor

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You may be thinking of the late 40's Triumph 1800/2000 Roadster which did have a pair of oval windows in the upper boot hinged weather panel which supposedly provided protection from the elements for passengers riding in the dickey seat. cheers

 

 

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I agree that modern cars are by and large without personality. However you have to be careful about designing "retro" cars. Chrysler tried it with the PT Cruiser and look how that turned out.

 

What I'd like to see them do is actual replicas of former greats, with modern safety features, performance etc. Who wouldn't buy a curvy 1960's style roadster with ANCAP 5-star rating, bluetooth connectivity and auto-park?

 

 

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The Honda engine on the F1 car today is not good at all. It sounds like a lawn mower is the kindest thing I can say and has the HP of a butterfly. They need another couple of hundred million dollars I think to fix it.

 

 

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Riley.could be Jowlet javlin or jupiter

spacesailor

Don't believe so. In over 50 years of messing with/owning/restoring British autos I've never come across either a Javelin or a Jupiter with anything other than a conventional metal boot lid. cheers

 

 

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That Riley is very much like mine was except mine didn't have a solid top, but it was like treated canvas, similar to the car on the left but it did not fold down. The Knock Off wheels were great and the front view had the dynamo sticking out the front, under the radiator, with a hollow for the crank handle to enter it. I am drooling now. Pneumatic seats and an ass about gearbox were a couple of odd features.

 

 

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those F1 cars do nothing for me. The best F1 cars were in the 50s, open wheelers, with Jack brabham drifting them around corners. What I would really like is an updated version of a car I used to own. A 1934 Riley Kestrel. That was one of the most beautiful cars in my opinion, better than the E type jag by a long way.

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So you want classic looks of the 50's- 60's and modern stuff as well?

 

How about this-

 

The Marlin Sportster

 

It uses all BMW running gear as a kit car but can be factory built.

 

It takes the entire running gear including suspension and brakes. This can inlcude the standard features of the BMW- anything feature wise- eg ABS, traction control, stability control and even blue tooth. The only thing that would be a problem is the 5 star ANCAP and air bags- but that is possible.

 

The chassis is very strong.

 

It will accept a BMW 4,6,8 or V12.

 

This is nothing like a clubman it is substantially stronger and more refined and larger for real sized humans.

 

 

They have been constantly upgraded and now accept the drivetrain of the BMW e39 5 series- on of the best drivers cars ever made.

 

The E39 has fantastic handling and brakes for a big car- at almost 55% of the weight the Marlin performs like a supercar if needed.

 

Can be built will aero screens or a full strong framed windscreen.

 

Certainly a car I would love to build/own.

 

 

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Or maybe for those with a Italian bent-

 

The Pagano- a quasi Ferrari 500/Alfa Romeo of the 50's but with 80's Alfetta tech inside. So that means font/mid engine and a gearbox /transaxle in the rear. Perfect 50/50 weight balance.

 

Suits Alfa 4 or glorious V6.

 

No real modern features but who cares, this is 50's road racing porn.

 

It could off course be upgraded to modern driveline if needed.

 

weight is 750-800kg, performance exciting, and sexy as it comes.

 

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And lightweight wire wheels are available- for the finishing touch.

 

No that is damn sexy.

 

 

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Yes Lightspeed, that's exactly what I'm talking about - that Marlin Sportster is sex on tyres.

 

 

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I haven't been at 130mph since my motorbike days, so I don't think that would be a problem!

 

 

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