Happyflyer Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Engine failure involving a Jabiru J430, VH-SZQ, 56 km WNW of Oakey Airport, Queensland on 19 November 2015. Looks like no injuries after the Jab landed on a road. Good job by the pilot. https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2015/aair/ao-2015-138.aspx 1
Guest ozzie Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 There was one also up around Scone way last week that slipped by unmentioned. Out landing and derigged onto trailer, details unknown.
Jabiru7252 Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 I know of a Jab and a Tecnam that had engine failures that never got a mention anywhere...
fly_tornado Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Registered in WA, on its way to Vic from Bundy? Wonder what it was doing in Bundy? 2
ave8rr Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Saw the aircraft in Bun Registered in WA, on its way to Vic from Bundy? Wonder what it was doing in Bundy? Registered to a Kangaroo flat Vic address since Oct 15. Aircraft was flying at Bundy when I was on accident day. 1
facthunter Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Something sinister I'll bet. Wouldn't be buying a bag of sugar. You might be onto something. Nev 1 1 1
gandalph Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Registered in WA, on its way to Vic from Bundy? Wonder what it was doing in Bundy? 2
fly_tornado Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Why is it gandy, all these Jabs keep running out of fuel? 1 1
gandalph Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 I don't know, Dick. Perhaps we should wait and see what an investigation of the cause reveals. What's the weather like up in Toowoomba? It's a bit too hot here for me to be jumping to conclusions, but perhaps that's the only exercise available to some people.....
fly_tornado Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Its hot up here, that Jab pilot is alive and lives to fly another day.
gandalph Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 As does the Tecnam crew. Good results all round. It will be interesting and hopefully informative to get some solid information on the causes of both incidents
fly_tornado Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 So was the Jab that crashed factory built or experimental?
Happyflyer Posted November 21, 2015 Author Posted November 21, 2015 So was the Jab that crashed factory built or experimental? VH SZQ Power Driven Aeroplane with landing gear Single Piston engine Manufacturer: AMATEUR BUILT AIRCRAFT Model: JABIRU J430 Serial number: 313 Aircraft first registered in Australia: 17 July 2006 Year of manufacture: 2006
gandalph Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 So was the Jab that crashed factory built or experimental? Do you see that as relevant? Can you explain why it might be relevant to this incident? Not stirring, I'm genuinely curious as to why you think it might be a relevant actor in this incident. I see that you are labelling it as a "crash" while the ATSB stubbornly calls it a forced landing, but what would they know about anything? 1
fly_tornado Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Lets not get too far ahead of ourselves, the ATSB are investigating and all will be revealed in due course
Happyflyer Posted November 21, 2015 Author Posted November 21, 2015 I see that you are labelling it as a "crash" while the ATSB stubbornly calls it a forced landing, but what would they know about anything? The report does say there was substantial damage. Maybe a good compromise would be to say crash landing? 1 1
gandalph Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Lets not get too far ahead of ourselves, the ATSB are investigating and all will be revealed in due course Very pleasing to see you say that. But you still haven't said why you think factory built or experimental might be relevant though.
gandalph Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 The report does say there was substantial damage. Maybe a good compromise would be to say crash landing? Maybe, but we won't know yet until we get more details so I'd prefer to stick with the ATSB's far less emotive language for now.
gandalph Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 ATSB calls the Jab one forced landing in their summary, (see summary below - the bolding and underlining were added by me) and categorises it as an accident. They don't call it a crash. No word from them on the Tecnam incident/accident/occurrence yet. FT's determination to emotively label every incident involving a Jabiru as a crash brings only heat to the discussion but sheds no light. I'm suggesting is that we wait for ATSB to conduct the autopsy and determine the cause(s) rather than have the "experts" here decide the cause. I think we would be better congratulating the pilots of the Jab and the Tecnam on their piloting skills for getting their aircraft on the ground safely than jumping to conclusions about either incident. Summary The ATSB is investigating an engine failure involving a Jabiru J430, VH-SZQ, 56 km WNW of Oakey Airport, Queensland on 19 November 2015. During cruise, the engine failed and the pilot conducted a forced landing onto a road resulting in substantial damage. As part of the investigation the ATSB will interview the pilot, gather maintenance information and additional information as required. A report will be released in several months. ASTB Back in the day when language was used politely, gentlemen perspired but ladies felt the heat; Cars broke down but Rolls Royces failed to proceed. Perhaps Jabirus crash while other brands have in flight anomalies. 1
rankamateur Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 The ATSB categorises it as an "accident". So they are inferring there was no intent? 1
djpacro Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 They use the Dept of Transport etc definition of an accident. 1
Teckair Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 FT's determination to emotively label every incident involving a Jabiru as a crash brings only heat to the discussion but sheds no light. Most people don't take him seriously.
jetjr Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 All 430 are homebuilt, depending if the owner is the builder it may be self or LAME maintained Makes no difference
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