scre80 Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Hi All, I am looking into purchasing my first aircraft, but as money will be tight, I would be looking for a recreational aircraft where it can be transported on a trailer and I can keep it in my garage, as I am only 10mins from the airfield, to keep costs down and avoid hanger fees. I am wondering if anyone can advise of a suitable aircraft where it only requires 1 person to setup the aircraft from the trailer. Some specifics of what I would like in the aircraft include - cruise at 90knots - endurance of 5 hours - 2 seats but open to single seat - rotex engine but open to others - easy to fly for a beginner pilot. Thanks
Ultralights Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 i can think of 2 off the top of my head, The Saddler Vampire, and the Gazelle, but sadly nothing to fit the criteria you listed, unless its a $200,000 Icon A5
Neil_S Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Hi All,I am looking into purchasing my first aircraft, but as money will be tight, I would be looking for a recreational aircraft where it can be transported on a trailer and I can keep it in my garage, as I am only 10mins from the airfield, to keep costs down and avoid hanger fees. I am wondering if anyone can advise of a suitable aircraft where it only requires 1 person to setup the aircraft from the trailer. Some specifics of what I would like in the aircraft include - cruise at 90knots - endurance of 5 hours - 2 seats but open to single seat - rotex engine but open to others - easy to fly for a beginner pilot. Thanks Hi, If you can be flexible with some of those requirements then a Gazelle is an excellent plane that has folding wings. The things you would sacrifice would be :- 1) TAS of 75 knots in the cruise 2) endurance of about 3 hours It has an 80hp Rotax and 2 seats. It is certainly easy to fly, and fun! HTH, Neil
dsam Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Hi All,I am looking into purchasing my first aircraft, but as money will be tight, I would be looking for a recreational aircraft where it can be transported on a trailer and I can keep it in my garage, as I am only 10mins from the airfield, to keep costs down and avoid hanger fees. I am wondering if anyone can advise of a suitable aircraft where it only requires 1 person to setup the aircraft from the trailer. Some specifics of what I would like in the aircraft include - cruise at 90knots - endurance of 5 hours - 2 seats but open to single seat - rotex engine but open to others - easy to fly for a beginner pilot. Thanks Hi scre80. Have a look at the 2 seater Eurofox from Horsham Aviation: http://horshamaviation.com.au/Aircraft/ I keep mine in a trailer, and it is a single handed operation to fold or deploy the wings. I have a small electric winch to draw it tail-first into my trailer. As for flying characteristics, I couldn't be happier. Cruise goes up to 110 knots, but with full flaperon it stalls at just 38 knots. With a rotax 912 ULS engine and 85 litres usable, you get a maximum endurance of 6 hours, and a maximum range of 540 nautical miles. It has excellent short field performance even at MTOW of 560 Kg. It is factory built either as a tail dragger or nose wheel configuration (like mine), and can even tow gliders if required. Build quality is excellent. I have the Dynon system operating the autopilot, which is great for the long navigational legs. Of course I'm biased, because I have one, but I think you'd be lucky to find better value in any other trailer-able aircraft.
Kyle Communications Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Yes Dsam but the price will frighten him :)
Geoff13 Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Hi All,I am looking into purchasing my first aircraft, but as money will be tight, I would be looking for a recreational aircraft where it can be transported on a trailer and I can keep it in my garage, as I am only 10mins from the airfield, to keep costs down and avoid hanger fees. I am wondering if anyone can advise of a suitable aircraft where it only requires 1 person to setup the aircraft from the trailer. Some specifics of what I would like in the aircraft include - cruise at 90knots - endurance of 5 hours - 2 seats but open to single seat - rotex engine but open to others - easy to fly for a beginner pilot. Thanks X-Air Hanuman Folding Wings. According to the book it is a 1 man operation although I will admit to not having folded the wings on mine so can neither confirm nor deny the time frame.. BEW approx 300kgs depending upon engine and MTOW of 544kgs Cruise 85 Knots Endurance 4 hours. (80 litres fuel) 2 Seat side by side. Rotax engines some 80 hp some are 100hp and some are Jabiru 80hp Simple to fly, very forgiving. There is a factory built one with the 80hp Rotax for sale in the Classifieds. 1
dsam Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Yes Dsam but the price will frighten him :) Perhaps true... 60k Euro is the recommended configuration, and much depends on the AUD exchange rate.
Kyle Communications Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 60,000 divided by .62 plus freight cost then import charges then add 10%....well over 100K
bexrbetter Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Well hang on Guys, how about asking the OP what price range he's in before deciding what's too expensive for him.
dazza 38 Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 In the original post you have written rotex engine. Which we assume means Rotax or do you mean The Rotec radial ?
Nobody Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Onex? http://www.sonexaircraft.com/aircraft/onex.html
Blueadventures Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Hi All,I am looking into purchasing my first aircraft, but as money will be tight, I would be looking for a recreational aircraft where it can be transported on a trailer and I can keep it in my garage, as I am only 10mins from the airfield, to keep costs down and avoid hanger fees. I am wondering if anyone can advise of a suitable aircraft where it only requires 1 person to setup the aircraft from the trailer. Some specifics of what I would like in the aircraft include - cruise at 90knots - endurance of 5 hours - 2 seats but open to single seat - rotex engine but open to others - easy to fly for a beginner pilot. Thanks Hi SCRE80 The Skyrangers have a folding wing option. Have a look through the link on this site for Bestoff Aircraft AU or give the agent Greg a phone call. They will tick all your boxes for speed, endurance, 2 seats, rotax 912 nice to fly and handle on t/off and landing. I have a Nynja and i'm totally happy with it. I'd recommend that you look up a Skyranger owner that you can get to and have a look and get a flight; alos do the same to any others you look at. Best to try before you buy one. Happy hunting and flying Mike
503 Posted December 27, 2015 Posted December 27, 2015 Microlight or Powered parachute,not fast though
scre80 Posted December 27, 2015 Author Posted December 27, 2015 Looks like a great aircraft, Price, yes an issue I realize I need to be flexible on my requirements. Main one is it can be put on a trailer by 1 person, and it is a recreation aircraft (Not looking at microlights or powered parachutes) everything else is optional!! Thanks everyone for info too, I will look into them. I am unsure of my budget yet but I would be looking at a 2nd had aircraft. If you hear of anything available, let me know. Thanks Hi scre80. Have a look at the 2 seater Eurofox from Horsham Aviation:http://horshamaviation.com.au/Aircraft/ I keep mine in a trailer, and it is a single handed operation to fold or deploy the wings. I have a small electric winch to draw it tail-first into my trailer. As for flying characteristics, I couldn't be happier. Cruise goes up to 110 knots, but with full flaperon it stalls at just 38 knots. With a rotax 912 ULS engine and 85 litres usable, you get a maximum endurance of 6 hours, and a maximum range of 540 nautical miles. It has excellent short field performance even at MTOW of 560 Kg. It is factory built either as a tail dragger or nose wheel configuration (like mine), and can even tow gliders if required. Build quality is excellent. I have the Dynon system operating the autopilot, which is great for the long navigational legs. Of course I'm biased, because I have one, but I think you'd be lucky to find better value in any other trailer-able aircraft. reat aircraft,
billwoodmason Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 A Kitfox could be an option. Price maybe 20 - 30K. Depending on hours in service and age.
storchy neil Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Hi All,I am looking into purchasing my first aircraft, but as money will be tight, I would be looking for a recreational aircraft where it can be transported on a trailer and I can keep it in my garage, as I am only 10mins from the airfield, to keep costs down and avoid hanger fees. I am wondering if anyone can advise of a suitable aircraft where it only requires 1 person to setup the aircraft from the trailer. Some specifics of what I would like in the aircraft include - cruise at 90knots - endurance of 5 hours - 2 seats but open to single seat - rotex engine but open to others - easy to fly for a beginner pilot. Thanks how about cruise clean air 105 endurance 4 hrs 2 seats can be flown with doors off 80 hp rotax s motor folding wings easy to fly then look at a flysynthesis storch s neil
Steve L Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 scre80, have a look at the Bushbaby Explorer, ( taildragger or tricycle ) has all of what you require. Wouldn't be many around 2nd hand but with a kit you can build to your own specs at your own pace, as the money is available, and at the end of the day doesn't cost much more than a 2nd hand plane, I know because I'm building one now. Another good choice as Bill mentioned is the Kitfox. There was one for sale in Vic, advertised in the RA AUS members market.
Keith W Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 What about some of the Morgan aircraft, don't the wings swing on them.
peter Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Onex, folding wings par excellence! I think I had my wings up and down 3 times today just moving it round the hangar, takes 30 seconds to unfold or fold both wings. Cruises up to 120 knots but no rotax and only one seat but of course you can build the whole plane including engine for around the cost of just a rotax engine. Peter 1
Camel Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 What about some of the Morgan aircraft, don't the wings swing on them. The Morgan Aeroworks planes have easy to remove wings not folding. 1
scre80 Posted December 28, 2015 Author Posted December 28, 2015 Thanks all, lots of information for me to research. I will keep an eye on the classifieds too. While I like the idea of one day building an airplane, for now I just want to fly. 1
Guest debra stewart Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Hi All,I am looking into purchasing my first aircraft, but as money will be tight, I would be looking for a recreational aircraft where it can be transported on a trailer and I can keep it in my garage, as I am only 10mins from the airfield, to keep costs down and avoid hanger fees. I am wondering if anyone can advise of a suitable aircraft where it only requires 1 person to setup the aircraft from the trailer. Some specifics of what I would like in the aircraft include - cruise at 90knots - endurance of 5 hours - 2 seats but open to single seat - rotex engine but open to others - easy to fly for a beginner pilot. Thanks A Skyfox Gazelle of course, what other plane is there, ha ha. Really beautiful, easy to handle, runs on the smell of fuel, wings fold, blah blah, Try one, you wont be sorry. I got mine for less than $30,000 but it is worth about $35,000 now. It cost me $10 for an hours circuits. I run it on Clatex Vortex. They are sturdy and handle heaps of bumps and mistakes. Very forgiving. Not many around now but if you see one grab it. Debb
Spooks Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Not sure if you can get them in Oz, but the TLAC Sherwood aircraft are folding-wing http://www.g-tlac.com The C42 Ikarus might be another option but they don't seem too popular over your way (even though it's a superb aircraft) http://www.comco-ikarus.de/Pages/produkte-comco/c42-uk.php?lang=en Zenith CH701 Or this from Aerotek http://www.aerotrek.aero/wingfold.htm
ozbear Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Aeropup have a good folding wing system no controls to disconnect fold in 10 mins 1
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