Marty_d Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 The aboriginals came from elsewhere too you know so that makes them immigrants too doesnt it....how far do you want to go back. Is it only good enough for 200 years or 20,000 years 1 1
frank marriott Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Thread drift....This has nothing to do with Camit closing. Camit has closed and all parts / machinery disposed of.. Yes. Put your political / racist comments where the sun doesn't shine and keep Rec Flying to recreational flying content. 4
Geoff13 Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 People should be able to discuss races without being branded Racist. 1 1
eightyknots Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Thread drift....This has nothing to do with Camit closing. Camit has closed and all parts / machinery disposed of.. Yes. Put your political / racist comments where the sun doesn't shine and keep Rec Flying to recreational flying content. I am not sure of the connection between the two parallel topics on this thread, unless CAMIT is an acronym for: Chinese And Middle Indian Transmigration 1
bexrbetter Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Ok. Got it , so to become the native of a particular country, one needs to kill and murder the inhabitants and plunder the land. Please show me a period in the entire history of mankind that this isn't how it happened. We are what we are today, and where we are, because of it, but you'll happily reap the benefits of it while denying where it came from, I find that strange. Thread drift....This has nothing to do with Camit closing. Camit has closed and all parts / machinery disposed of.. Months old news, broken up and completely gone now so nothing more to report or discuss is there.
Jaba-who Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Ok. Got it , so to become the native of a particular country, one needs to kill and murder the inhabitants and plunder the land. And once they have conquered the land by deception or using power against someone who is weak and vulnerable, then they become the original inhabitants .According to your logic - if countries like India & China, which have the largest armies, decide to conquer Australia in a World War 3, then everyone in India / China who moves to Australia will become natives of Australia, and will no more be immigrants! Lucky, the Indians and Chinese do not follow your logic . Your initial statement is/was once absolutely true. The only original inhabitants in the world that have ever been truly original were the earliest hominoids in Africa - as far as we can tell australopithicus aferensis. From there every hominoid-group who colonised anywhere else in the world did so by expanding out to some other place thus being denied the label of native ( to the purists). Every place was at some time taken over by some other more capable species, then once we became Homo sapiens, by the stronger race. No matter where you call your original cultural home - by your implication, you too aren't a native of it but (the offspring of) an invader. Your second part is neglecting the fact that in last 200 or so years humans have advanced past the notion of that anyone can invade another country. Generally people now don't invade other countries to settle in them. But if they try to, this is stopped now by diplomatic or martial means ( although admittedly sometimes the world looks on and wrings its hands in impotent dismay). 1 2
spacesailor Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Take the Poor English!, Once was a country (Albion) of native brits, invaded by: Saxons, Normans, Romans, & now by the EEC immigrants, Lost their identity, and their language, Even to read their (OLD) English text, is only for the well educated. spacesailor 1 1
coljones Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Take the Poor English!,Once was a country (Albion) of native brits, invaded by: Saxons, Normans, Romans, & now by the EEC immigrants, Lost their identity, and their language, Even to read their (OLD) English text, is only for the well educated. spacesailor At least the EEC immigrants are civilised! The rest were just bunches of mafia thugs. You left out the Vikings - they were unfrenchified and didn't claim "by divine right"
spacesailor Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 HOW DO YOU define civilised!. And yes meant to put the Vikings in first. spacesailor 1 1
Kyle Communications Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Lets just throw in a little of the crusades and spanish inquistion for good measure as well
bexrbetter Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 and the Spanish Inquistion Well it wasn't mentioned because no one ever expects it!
Bernie Posted March 9, 2017 Posted March 9, 2017 Your initial statement is/was once absolutely true. The only original inhabitants in the world that have ever been truly original were the earliest hominoids in Africa - as far as we can tell australopithicus aferensis. From there every hominoid-group who colonised anywhere else in the world did so by expanding out to some other place thus being denied the label of native ( to the purists). Every place was at some time taken over by some other more capable species, then once we became Homo sapiens, by the stronger race. No matter where you call your original cultural home - by your implication, you too aren't a native of it but (the offspring of) an invader.Your second part is neglecting the fact that in last 200 or so years humans have advanced past the notion of that anyone can invade another country. Generally people now don't invade other countries to settle in them. But if they try to, this is stopped now by diplomatic or martial means ( although admittedly sometimes the world looks on and wrings its hands in impotent dismay). Israel . 1 1
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