OzScot Posted July 30, 2017 Posted July 30, 2017 Near miss in the UK between a light aircraft (not sure of type but looks RAA type) and a citation jet. Video here: Air collision near Eastbourne avoided thanks to pilot - BBC News If the citation jet was doing 240kts then it's a surprise the other aircraft saw them in time to maneuver as the frontal profile would be small until the last couple of seconds!
facthunter Posted July 31, 2017 Posted July 31, 2017 How many would have turned the wrong way? Bit lucky because at low speed the trajectory of the small plane wouldn't displace it much in terms of degrees or actual distance. We don't teach avoidance to any real extent. OK on a head on situation BOTH aircraft turn RIGHT. That's fine in theory, and in this case it worked and legally that's what you must do, BUT It might just cause you to collide where you would not have if you kept on the path you originally had, OR improved it. IF the object is stationary at any spot in your windscreen you WILL collide if you just continue with nothing changing. If it's moving in some direction including an up or down component if you move OPPOSITE to that direction you will make it move faster across the windscreen, and you will avoid a collision. Check it out for yourself. ( not in a real situation though) Nev 1
cooperplace Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 How many would have turned the wrong way? Bit lucky because at low speed the trajectory of the small plane wouldn't displace it much in terms of degrees or actual distance. We don't teach avoidance to any real extent. OK on a head on situation BOTH aircraft turn RIGHT. That's fine in theory, and in this case it worked and legally that's what you must do, BUT It might just cause you to collide where you would not have if you kept on the path you originally had, OR improved it. IF the object is stationary at any spot in your windscreen you WILL collide if you just continue with nothing changing. If it's moving in some direction including an up or down component if you move OPPOSITE to that direction you will make it move faster across the windscreen, and you will avoid a collision. Check it out for yourself. ( not in a real situation though) Nev but to move opposite to the direction something is moving in, you'd need to think about it, which could take several seconds, it would for me. On the other hand, my instinctive 'turn right" would be much quicker. I think.
facthunter Posted August 1, 2017 Posted August 1, 2017 That aircraft was on the right so instinctively most would turn left. Once you bank you lose sight of it. You can climb or dive which can be your only way out in some situations. You can do both to improve your chances. My point is this sort of stuff should be taught. No one can say they won't ever need it. Nev
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