Category G

[Kyle Communications]

Getting a second check on a 100hrly/annual or a l2 is a waste of time as when someone is dangerous enough to shortcut etc the I am confident that they will also have a mate with the same attitude (including a L2)Cannot legislate for fools without creating problems and cost for the majority who comply with the tech manual NOW.

Well thats the problem Frank

 

Governments always legislate for the lowest common denominator...not the majority

 

 

[turboplanner]

That's not hard to understand it's the lowest common denominator that causes most of the problems.

 

 

[Kyle Communications]

yes but in a percentile calculation they are a major minority...hence the need for Darwin awards

 

 

[spacesailor]

And get rid of the stupid "wing-loading", if an aircraft is a good design & inherently safe, (Numbers flying, survive-ability). lawerspeak should be kept at bay.

 

spacesailor

 

 

[Yenn]

Before the AUF we had to fly GA or not at all. It was simple, do the training get the licence and fly, but of course you had the medical to get also. We did it and enjoyed it. Then along came AUF, so we could fly cheaper planes and not need a medical. Even build our own planes and do all the maintenance. That was great, much less red tape and cheaper. So good in fact that there are many hundred pilots who took that route

 

Now a group of pilots are not happy, they see GA pilots flying bigger, faster aircraft into controlled airspace and cry out "We want that, its not fair that GA can do so much more"

 

Personally I am happy to fly my ultralight, outside of controlled airspace with only one passenger allowed and I can't even do aerobatics.

 

Of course if I re register the ultralight as GA I can fly it much cheaper as I don't have to be a member of RAAus.

 

If you can't legally fly GA because you can't get a class 2 or a drivers licence medical, I really think you shouldn't be flying.

 

 

[Kyle Communications]

I can get a drivers licence medical but NOT a CASA modified drivers licence medical

 

I am sure there are a hell of a lot in the same boat.

 

if you have had any cancer or heart operation I can still drive a Bdouble but not fly a GA aircraft at all

 

 

[Downunder]

.....well what about if the stall speed is under 45knots but not greater than 750kg?...where does it all end. I think this is a feeble attempt to do anything....the answer is thats called RPL ....WTF. Cant anyone make sensible rules any more

The RAA management see the RPL as a serious threat to membership numbers.

 

I think this is the real reason behind the cta/mtow push........

 

 

[poteroo]

he RAA management see the RPL as a serious threat to membership numbers.I think this is the real reason behind the cta/mtow push........

It was an inspired decision by CASA to name the old GFPT, (aka RPPL), the RPL. It completely muddied-the-waters in the 'recreational aviation' sector, and validated a public perception that a licence trumps a certificate. The fact that you must hold a 'real' (CASA) medical, in order to hold a 'real' pilot qualification, (a licence), has undermined the authority of all RAAO's, and RAAus is now in an invidious position. What Machiavellian policy is behind it is beyond mere pilots to understand: probably quite clear in Canberra?

 

 

[SSCBD]

Before the AUF we had to fly GA or not at all. It was simple, do the training get the licence and fly, but of course you had the medical to get also. We did it and enjoyed it. Then along came AUF, so we could fly cheaper planes and not need a medical. Even build our own planes and do all the maintenance. That was great, much less red tape and cheaper. So good in fact that there are many hundred pilots who took that routeNow a group of pilots are not happy, they see GA pilots flying bigger, faster aircraft into controlled airspace and cry out "We want that, its not fair that GA can do so much more"

Personally I am happy to fly my ultralight, outside of controlled airspace with only one passenger allowed and I can't even do aerobatics.

 

Of course if I re register the ultralight as GA I can fly it much cheaper as I don't have to be a member of RAAus.

 

If you can't legally fly GA because you can't get a class 2 or a drivers licence medical, I really think you shouldn't be flying.

Yenn, a bit of a history lesson for you.

We did fly and build ultralights BEFORE the AUF came into existence. In fact many were flying out of paddocks and CASA then needed the AUF to be formed to control us.

 

Here endith the lesson.

 

And sorry I believe that all can be done within the RAA for all members just with different levels.