Patriot shoots Cessna

[fly_tornado]

Charged with attempted murder

 

Minnesota man put a bullet hole in passing plane, charges say – Twin Cities

 

 

[Super Cub]

He believes all light aircraft flying over his property are 'terrorists', what's surprising is he still has a gun licence. I would expect they will remove all his weapons now.

 

When I did my RAAus conversion, my Instructor pointed to a spot over Meldale / Donnybrook and cautioned me about flying over that area stating, an old guy fires a gun at aircraft in that area. Not sure if he was serious or not.

 

 

[Downunder]

Heading had me thinking of a "Patriot missile system" for a second.

 

Was thinking there's not going to be much left of the Cessna.

 

 

[old man emu]

Strewth!!

 

Around here the NOMBYs just write strongly worded letters to the Editor.

 

OME

 

NOMBY : Not Over My Back Yard

 

 

[poteroo]

Back in the 60s when there were lots more firearms about the country - there was an unusual story doing the rounds at Archerfield of a 'Cessna' being brought into a maintenance facility with a bullet hole in the tailplane. Not unusual you might say, given that many outback Cessnas were flown 'door off' while a firearm was being employed in 'culling' duties over the station. But this one was said to be very unusual - the bullet entered from the top and emerged from the lower surface! The pilot was said to have been 'beating up' a farm in some very hilly country down in the QLD/NSW border ranges, where it's not impossible to fly past lower than a house! Quite a good story - but completely unauthenticated.

 

happy days,

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

I've been shown two bullet holes in an ultralight wing. A product of a rural neighbourhood dispute.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

...I should have mentioned, that was over twenty years ago, or I wouldn't be flying near that area today.

 

 

[nong]

Back in the 60s when there were lots more firearms about the country - there was an unusual story doing the rounds at Archerfield of a 'Cessna' being brought into a maintenance facility with a bullet hole in the tailplane. Not unusual you might say, given that many outback Cessnas were flown 'door off' while a firearm was being employed in 'culling' duties over the station. But this one was said to be very unusual - the bullet entered from the top and emerged from the lower surface! The pilot was said to have been 'beating up' a farm in some very hilly country down in the QLD/NSW border ranges, where it's not impossible to fly past lower than a house! Quite a good story - but completely unauthenticated.happy days,

Probably just a topdresser working the neighbour's farm. Easy to hit top surfaces during a slow P turn. In that era, likely a C180, Cropmaster or C188 out of Casino, operated by Cec Swift.

 

 

[Soleair]

During a preflight on my microlight back in the UK in 1980 I found a shotgun pellet hole in my plywood winglet. There were some very antagonistic anti-aircraft people who lived in the housing estate next to the airfield I was based in. One of them was arrested for shining a mirror into pilots' eyes on final.

 

Bruce

 

 

[Neil_S]

He believes all light aircraft flying over his property are 'terrorists', what's surprising is he still has a gun licence. I would expect they will remove all his weapons now..

Nah - they will just tell all pilots to carry guns to defend themselves.....

 

I will be attaching that Vickers to my Savannah tomorrow....

 

 

[onetrack]

Only in America. But, don't forget, he's completely blameless, he was just exercising his 2nd Amendment right - to shoot and kill people he perceives as a threat to his life and liberty.

 

How can the authorities remove all his weapons?? That must be a sign of a Tyrannical Govt, who are infringing on his God-given, inviolable, 2nd Amendment right!

 

I've even seen a gun-fondler clown on a forum, claim that the 2nd Amendment was God-given, as if it came down from Mt Sinai on stone tablets!

 

 

[Downunder]

Religon, the US constitution and guns......this could be one long thread onetrack.

 

 

[Pominaus]

Strewth!!Around here the NOMBYs just write strongly worded letters to the Editor.

OME

 

NOMBY : Not Over My Back Yard

Yep, a lot of them where we live. Now spring's here, the schools out of Moorabbin are pretty busy, so fairly regular planes over head through the day, and a few night training flights in the evening. A neighbour caught me watching one the other day - cloud was low, so the plane was low enough to identify- and that triggered him on a 20 minute rant about rich guys flying noisy planes over his house (by which he means mostly about a mile away and just loud enough that you can just about hear them outside your house, unlike his 9am on a Sunday morning lawnmower/leaf blower/chainsaw).

Having that yellow streak that helps keep pilots alive, I've kept my involvement in aviation a secret from him, though have flown over my... so I guess his house before.... oh the temptation to go full throttle!

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

I've even seen a gun-fondler clown on a forum, claim that the 2nd Amendment was God-given, as if it came down from Mt Sinai on stone tablets!

Onetrack you have added a useful new word to the English language.

Gun-fondler.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

...a 20 minute rant about rich guys flying noisy planes over his house (by which he means mostly about a mile away and just loud enough that you can just about hear them outside your house, unlike his 9am on a Sunday morning lawnmower/leaf blower/chainsaw).Having that yellow streak that helps keep pilots alive, I've kept my involvement in aviation a secret from him, though have flown over my... so I guess his house before.... oh the temptation to go full throttle

 

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You could return the lawnmower favour, Pom. Make sure it's loud, and timed to cause him maximum annoyance.

Then, when he complains, show him some decibel readings of passing aircraft vs mower.

 

Most RAA aircraft seem to have mufflers; the worst offenders are GA planes with straight thru exhaust pipes and near-sonic prop speeds.

 

 

[onetrack]

I've got to agree with Old Koreelah. Some of the most annoying and loudest levels of noise come from lawn manicure equipment - and it's generally right next door, or across the road! - not 1000 feet up, and a kilometre away, and passing by you.

 

And there's 1500 items of lawn manicure equipment, to every 1 item of light aircraft. Those bloody leaf-blowers drive me insane, and they are most useless item in every household or lawn mowing contractors array of equipment!

 

The lawnmowing contractors must love them. Get people to pay you good money, to blow a pile of lawnmower cuttings out into the street, so it can blow back in again, half an hour later!!

 

 

[Pominaus]

I've got to agree with Old Koreelah. Some of the most annoying and loudest levels of noise come from lawn manicure equipment - and it's generally right next door, or across the road! - not 1000 feet up, and a kilometre away, and passing by you.And there's 1500 items of lawn manicure equipment, to every 1 item of light aircraft. Those bloody leaf-blowers drive me insane, and they are most useless item in every household or lawn mowing contractors array of equipment!

The lawnmowing contractors must love them. Get people to pay you good money, to blow a pile of lawnmower cuttings out into the street, so it can blow back in again, half an hour later!!

Just about the only thing I miss about tiny British gardens - all your neighbours having an electric lawnmower lol!

 

Glad to hear I'm not the only one baffled by leaf blowers though!

 

 

[old man emu]

I live on one of the main internal roads of my suburb. My house is slightly north of the long extension of the centreline of Camden's 10/28 runway, but well out of the circuit area.

 

 

What noise do I get? Asthmatic Subarus dumping manifold pressure, Holden utes revved to near burn-out levels, and unsilenced Harley-Davidsons, all of which are attempting to get to the signposted 50 KpH speed limit as quickly as possible, using the traffic calming devices (speed humps) as starting point markers.

 

Aircraft noise? The occasional four seater tracking into or out of Camden; the gliding club's Pawnees if the wind is coming from the north east; CareFlight tracking to Camden Hospital, and way, way above, commercial heavies coming down the steps to Mascot.

 

The number of times i have wished I had a length of 4 x 2 to hurl at these ground transport machines!!!!!

 

OME

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

...unsilenced Harley-Davidsons...

The bane of my life, OME. I've been fined for noise on a stock standard brand new 72dB Ducati while Harleys with NO MUFFLERS are ignored by the wallopers!

[turboplanner]

The bane of my life, OME. I've been fined for noise on a stock standard brand new 72dB Ducati while Harleys with NO MUFFLERS are ignored by the wallopers!

And ignored is the correct word.

 

 

[Oscar]

The bane of my life, OME. I've been fined for noise on a stock standard brand new 72dB Ducati while Harleys with NO MUFFLERS are ignored by the wallopers!

Not running Contis, then....

 

 

[Litespeed]

Or Gianelli or reverse trumpets - always nice sounding on a Guzzi

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

Not running Contis, then....

No, Oscar, the boring Silentiums. Unlike Harleys, Contis don't make noise- they make music.

 

 

[Oscar]

No, Oscar, the boring Silentiums. Unlike Harleys, Contis don't make noise- they make music.

Oh, yes, indeedy. I used to ride a mate's Darmah sometimes, with the standard Silentiums, but another mate had a 900SS (sliver/blue tank, octagonal case) with Contis. I used to like to sit on his tail through the twisties just to listen to it.. ( The Darmah wasn't a bad handler at all, not disgraced, though I think he was being just a little kind to me, he was a damn good rider).

 

I used to keep my yacht in Pittwater, behind Scotland Island. The road into the National Park - (a magnet for motorcyclists) wound around the hills... You could hear a good punter with Contis coming around for maybe five minutes. Now, this was in the mid-80's when Car alarms were fairly crude, but it was a rich area and many BMWs and Mercs were parked out on the street because they couldn't get up/down the drives to the houses..

 

Contis, on a trailing throttle when 'making progress' as the English used to say, would set off car alarms. And - particularly on weekends, when the owners were out on their boats enjoying the serenity - the bloody alarms would shriek for hours on end. Nobody complained about the bikes - but there was a spate of attacks on high-priced cars from people driven out of their mind by the alarms.

 

I've sometimes wondered what Contis would sound like on my 1986, (first model) VFR750, which below about 5k sounds just like a pair of Ducs in formation, though above 5k when the cam timing kicks in it howls like a dervish all the way to 12k. Would probably have me arrested for having too much fun.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

...I've sometimes wondered what Contis would sound like on my 1986, (first model) VFR750, which below about 5k sounds just like a pair of Ducs in formation, though above 5k when the cam timing kicks in it howls like a dervish all the way to 12k. Would probably have me arrested for having too much fun.

Unlikely to impress; I suspect Contis were designed for the Ducati. At Bathurst one year a pair of Italian 90 degree twins had a memorable dice. Both wore Contis; only the Ducati sounded awesome. Much as I love them, the Guzzi Le Mans was just loud.

(This discussion had better go to the Off Topic site)