flie43 Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 Hi All, Getting closer to ordering a J230 and am trying to get all the costings in order for a syndicate. Was wondering what the average cost would be for 100 hrly for a VH registered 230 and who is a good Lame for Jabs in Vic or NSW. We are also looking at some different scenarios for syndicate set ups--are there any links or sources for more info on setting them up etc. Terry
blueline Posted December 20, 2007 Posted December 20, 2007 As a really rough guide I can say from experience (I have operated a Piper Cherokee and now operate a J160 and J230) that your maintenance cost will be about 10% of old GA types - but this is using a L2 not LAME (he charges much less than any LAME!) takes about 6-8 man hours to do a 100hrly and about 1-2 hours every 25 for oil change/general check over. Parts are much cheaper. Plugs about $3.50 VS $25! Engine life not as good, but they are cheaper to overhaul and the engines are improving - just make sure that your LAME (or L2) really knows these engines (just because a LAME charges $75 per hour this does not mean he knows what he/she is doing!). Airframe maintenance is almost zero when compared to older GA types - tyres, lube hinges- thats about it. Any reason why you are choosing to go GA rego?
facthunter Posted December 21, 2007 Posted December 21, 2007 L2 vs LAME. Just pointing out that an L2 can't service a VH registered Jab. Another point is that a lot of LAME's don't like RAA type aircraft as they regard them as a bit inferior, so pick your LAME carefully. No-one should be expected to work for nothing, so some L2's may be a little dearer in the future as the time on the job, will be the principal determinant of a cost comparison ( there should be an hourly rate difference due to training levels and overheads as well, But that's a constant ). It's the simplicity of the basic aircraft that helps cut your costs. Panels with gyro instruments can cost a fortune. Nev..
blueline Posted December 21, 2007 Posted December 21, 2007 I do agree that some L2 maintainers are going to get more expensive. I for one am prepared to pay more - they need to eat as well! LAME's will most likely always be more expensive because they have higher costs. Facthunter you are certainly on point when you say that a simple airframe means simple maintenance! I know someone that has just spent $8,000 on a 100hrly because of corrosion. This was just in the lower fuselage - he still has 2 wings and the tail to worry about!
flie43 Posted December 22, 2007 Author Posted December 22, 2007 Facthunter and Blueline, thanks heaps for your feedback. Great to get some actual costings and after talking to a few others these aircraft seem to beat hands down any of the standard GA aircraft (Cessna etc ). And Blueline-why am I going down the VH road and not RAA--hmm-I am keen on the NVFR package for early starts and late arrivals in the J230D, but maybe I should seriously rethink my choices. Terry
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