Warbirds over Wanaka Runway Collision.

[paddo2002]

Yak 3 runway collision at Warbirds over Wanaka. Looks like the repair bill might be a big one.

 

 

 

[paddo2002]

Sorry all. Just saw this was posted in the Warbirds over Wanaka thread in au nz discussions forum. Please disregard

 

 

[turboplanner]

I believe they are a handfull

 

 

[JerzyGeorge]

One very frustrated pilot I really feel for him

 

 

[old man emu]

Who was the idiot who parked the machine where it was? Or the airport safety officer who did not report its being there?

 

 

[SDQDI]

Well how close was it to the strip? It is hard to tell from the camera angle I saw.

 

 

[old man emu]

From the announcer's commentary it seems that landing on the grass was approved.

 

 

[kgwilson]

In theory the pilot should have identified that the runway was clear of obstacles on final. By the time he got to the flare stage he could not see a thing in front of him. The Yak 3 has a very low and narrow canopy. The reality though is that at an airshow like Wanaka all sorts of paraphernalia abound near the sides of the runways like Military vehicles, pyrotechnics setup, camera crews, crash vehicles, paramedics etc and so it is likely he thought the cherry picker was further away. He passes several items and people off to the side before impact.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

Ouch! Sad damage to a beautiful aeroplane- one of the best dogfighters of the war. There was a very fast Yak 3 at Evans Head last Feb, but it had a big radial.

 

 

[Litespeed]

I expect the lift was waiting to access the ferris wheel. . It beggars belief they could place it there, given the type of aircraft likely to use the grass. Safety is meant to accout for likely possible outcomes esp at a airshow. Reminds me of the Jules Bianchi death in F1.

 

Yes pilot may be at fault for deviation of straight ahead, but this is stupidity, might as well have landmines to punish mistakes.

 

 

[BLA82]

There was a very fast Yak 3 at Evans Head last Feb, but it had a big radial.

Yak 3 with a Radial??????

[Old Koreelah]

Yak 3 with a Radial??????

Evans Head, Feb this year. Zoom in to see the speed record claimed.Yakovlev Yak-3 - Wikipedia

 

 

 

 

[fallowdeer]

The most relevant fact of all is that it seems that the aircraft was not landed on a recognised vector. There is a grass vector parallel to the sealed runway, obviously with a space between. It appears that the aircraft was landed in between the grass vector and the sealed runway.

 

 

 

[planesmaker]

I notice there are no gable markers dilineating the perimeter of sealed strip, whereas the grass strip does. Just where does the width of the sealed airstrip finish? However I note there are 'white crosses' not sure how clear they are from the pilots view.

 

Not a good way to start the show, glad no one was injured.

 

 

[kgwilson]

Evans Head, Feb this year. Zoom in to see the speed record claimed.Yakovlev Yak-3 - Wikipedia

The only issue here is that this radial version was manufactured in 2002 with a Pratt & Whitney R1830 radial so hardly a WW2 warbird. The original Russian radial engined version was only produced as a prototype & never entered production as it was completed after the end of the war.

[BLA82]

Evans Head, Feb this year. Zoom in to see the speed record claimed.Yakovlev Yak-3 - Wikipedia

Wow, I never knew that, it's one way to make a great plane ugly

[fallowdeer]

There is about 75 metres between the edges of the parallel vectors.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

The only issue here is that this radial version was manufactured in 2002 with a Pratt & Whitney R1830 radial so hardly a WW2 warbird. The original Russian radial engined version was only produced as a prototype & never entered production as it was completed after the end of the war.

Yes, KG, I believe that Yak 3 prototype with the Russian radial had an awesome supercharger and went over 450mph.After the USSR collapsed, they had no income, so the old jigs were dusted off and twenty odd Yak fighters were built for foreign buyers. Perhaps the one with the P&W radial could be considered a close replica of an awesome WWII prototype.

 

 

[Old Koreelah]

Wow, I never knew that, it's one way to make a great plane ugly

The streamlined V-12 Yak is nice, but the radial-engined version I saw at Evans was beautiful.Excuse the umbrella:

 

 

 

[bexrbetter]

i think it's idiocy that these guys dont fit a forward camera to see whats in front of them on the ground.

 

 

[SDQDI]

i think it's idiocy that these guys dont fit a forward camera to see whats in front of them on the ground.

Maybe BUT I wonder if you could end up increasing RLOC incidents due to looking at a screen and losing, even if for a second or two, that peripheral view?

[Old Koreelah]

i think it's idiocy that these guys dont fit a forward camera to see whats in front of them on the ground.

Good idea, Bex. Zig-zagging on the taxiway is the normal solution to seeing past the engine.

[turboplanner]

I think he was porpoising, it bounces onto and mains and onto the tail wheel a few times, and veered towards the machine.

 

 

[bexrbetter]

Good idea, Bex. Zig-zagging on the taxiway is the normal solution to seeing past the engine.

Or not.

http://i7.tinypic.com/258m33o.jpg

 

 

[bexrbetter]

Maybe BUT I wonder if you could end up increasing RLOC incidents due to looking at a screen and losing, even if for a second or two, that peripheral view?

No different to looking at your rear view mirror while you're driving.