What happened with the MTOW change for RAAus

[Fred]

Its Class D only not Class C

There is already RAA training approved & happening for some time in class C.

 

 

[Jaba-who]

There is already RAA training approved & happening for some time in class C.

I didn't realize that. The RAAus statement says Class D.

Which Class  C airport is it happening in?

 

 

[Fred]

I didn't realize that. The RAAus statement says Class D.Which Class  C airport is it happening in?

Townsville

 

 

[Jaba-who]

Townsville

There you go. Did not know that.

I was of the understanding that there was no training RAAus or GA happening at Townsville any more.

 

Is that happening at Townsville Airport in Class C or is that at Woodstock or Bluewater?

 

 

[Fred]

2 GA schools.  Both doing fixed wing GA. One also does rotary the other does also RAA. Both train in Townsville class C.  They have different names for their rotary & RAA operations but in fact are only 2 operations.  A different RAA school at Woodstock & nil currently at Bluewater.

 

RAA & GA flight school at Ayr does RPL CTA training into Townsville also which has resulted in several Jabiru owners going into & transiting YBTL class C at will.

 

The comical situation arises when you see the RAA/GA school in Townsville using 3 Foxbats -  one registered GA and the other 2 RAA. Same aircraft type, same instructors, same building but different CFIs.

 

The Ayr operation has the same CFI for both.

 

 

[Fred]

Obviously with the RPL not limited to Townsville Only like the proposal (as I read it).

 

 

[Jaba-who]

2 GA schools.  Both doing fixed wing GA. One also does rotary the other does also RAA. Both train in Townsville class C.  They have different names for their rotary & RAA operations but in fact are only 2 operations.  A different RAA school at Woodstock & nil currently at Bluewater.RAA & GA flight school at Ayr does RPL CTA training into Townsville also which has resulted in several Jabiru owners going into & transiting YBTL class C at will.

 

The comical situation arises when you see the RAA/GA school in Townsville using 3 Foxbats -  one registered GA and the other 2 RAA. Same aircraft type, same instructors, same building but different CFIs.

 

The Ayr operation has the same CFI for both.

That’s all good to hear. 

GA training ( and GA activity) had been near dead in Townsville for so long. Haven’t been there for a year or so now but I used to go down there quite a lot. Some times it was like a ghost town. 

 

Sadly from a private operations point point of view Cairns has become a no go zone. Everyone has moved up to Mareeba or atherton or down to Innisfail. So it’s a bit the same there now for very light stuff. 

 

 

[facthunter]

IF the organization IS growing, economies of scale should reduce costs to the individual.  Expecting full access to Controlled airspace was never a reality for anything but a few "exceptional circumstance" situations where individual dispensations could be organized. This is not much different to the "special VFR" procedures  set up in the 60's for operating into MAJOR airports. For the majority, zone  TRANSIT procedures  at prescribed localities, should have been the aim which also have existed in the past. EMPIRE BUILDING is a common phenomenon in any organization. The more remote from the average member the managers are the more likely it is to happen. Being managed from Canberra seems to guarantee more predisposition to  get out of touch than most other localities. Nev