An old caution about stalling in a turn

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[Bernie]

I remember watching that on the news way back then .

 

Bernie .

 

 

[facthunter]

It may not have stalled. Perhaps just got into a spiral with overbanking. Some large aircraft enter spirals easily Stall/ spiral training . Recognition is an essential part of it.. First part of recovery is to determine whether it's one or the other. The recovery is quite different so correct identification is essential.. The "Graveyard" spiral is not a stall You would have to know the black box details here. . Nev

 

 

[HeliPilot70]

The B-52 doesn't have ailerons in the traditional sense, but rather spoilerons placed inboard and forward of the trailing edge, and are used for lateral control at high speeds to prevent excessive wing twist. Small ailerons are only used to provide control forces to the pilot.

 

Once a critical bank angle was passed (probably over 60°, but potentially lower due to reduced speed) the pilot would not have been able to recover even with "correct" inputs.

 

Spoileron - Wikipedia

 

 

[djpacro]

Much written about this stall accident ... I suggest Tony Kern's http://www.916-starfighter.de/darker_shades_of_blue-1.pdf

 

 

[facthunter]

More about the personality of the pilot and the break down of management to keep discipline. Aeroplanes with sweep back are designed for high subsonic flight speeds in cruise.This among other features makes slow speed flight subject to some control limitations and stability issues. (like slow speed dutch roll. Roll/yaw interactions) High altitude dutch roll is controlled by gyro linked yaw dampers.. High roll forces/ rates are achieved by differential spoilers. In all situations . In Cruise flight slight corrections are achieved by small inboard ailerons. It's only when flaps are extended that the outboard ailerons work at all. so the extra control is available in the circuit for maneuvering at lower speed. Nev

 

 

[shafs64]

they say that little black dot is the copilots escape hatch