Picker Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Hi there, exploring what is involved putting a Jab 3300 into a Cheetah. Thought this may be a good place to ask the question. They did not come with this as an engine option (looking at the Morgan webpage) so was hoping someone may have some experience with this subject. Thanks (Photo for interest and pinched from the Morgan webpage) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSteve Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 That was an option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picker Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 I thought so as well, it was an option with the Cheetah Sierra series but looking at the page here Morgan Aeroworks - Cheetah the 3300 option in the Cheetah is not listed hence my confusion. From that page.... Power Plants Jabiru 2200 - 4 Cylinder 80hp Rotax 912 - 4 Cylinder 80hp Rotax 582 - 2 Cylinder 65hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsm Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Hi there, exploring what is involved putting a Jab 3300 into a Cheetah. Thought this may be a good place to ask the question. They did not come with this as an engine option (looking at the Morgan webpage) so was hoping someone may have some experience with this subject. Thanks (Photo for interest and pinched from the Morgan webpage) Theres an aircraft I knew for a while, havent seen it for a couple of years now. Was very impressed with it, and its pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 The original Cheetahs had cloth covered wings and the later SIERRA was all metal and was optioned with 3300. You should call Ray and ask. I have flown the 3300 Sierra and is a good performer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yampy Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Theres an aircraft I knew for a while, havent seen it for a couple of years now. Was very impressed with it, and its pilot. I too remember that aircraft and it’s pilot owner too . He was a very prominent contributor and supporter of this site in the early days . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
408059 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Not sure what has happened to the pilot but the Cheetah 19-5151 is in the hangar I've recently rented a space in Goulburn. It is very unloved, buried in dust, has flat tires and shoved into the back of the hangar. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 engine killed itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
408059 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Is the engine dead? Can't say but it is an early Jabiru engine. The engine mount welding is none too flash but aside from this it looks flyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 It flew to the national fly-in a few times.. Brave little plane. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsm Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 This aircraft attended many of the flyins and was seen at most, if not all, events for a few years. The then owner was as keen as mustard. Canberra public servant so may be on transfer etc etc. Nice chap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iSteve Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Sierra Two Seater | Wedgetail Aircraft Pty Ltd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsm Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Used to..(belongs to) Slartibartfast ( last posted 2016) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank marriott Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Used to..(belongs to) Slartibartfast ( last posted 2016) Had an occasion flying into Watts Bridge to experience the on air behaviour of this individual. Suffice to say I (and a following CPL/instructor) have a different opinion of the professionism/airmanship of this individual. But I accept everyone is entitled to their opinion. I didn’t respond on the radio but waited in the vicinity of the aircraft a couple of times during the day hoping to meet him to discuss the legal requirements in relation to circuit entry. Unfortunately or perhaps fortunately we did not meet - but you take people as you find them (or not as the case may be). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yampy Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Used to..(belongs to) Slartibartfast ( last posted 2016) Has me concerned somewhat . He was very popular and really involved on this site and to suddenly “disappear “ and let his pride and joy airplane fall into an unworthy state has me wondering . Dave C 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 I met him at (if I recall correctly) the first Temora NatFly, but he became a bit thin on the ground after that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinsm Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 He would obviously be still paying his hanger fees so ask john, the owner, where he is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The build log of this aircraft is in the Morgan Aeroworks Forum. Ross and Joshua built and logged the builds of their Cheetahs in the thread Building "Cowboy Up", a Cheetah Kit It's a shame it has become unloved. The quality of the build was excellent. There are several other threads from Ross (aka Slaribartfast) in the Morgan Forums. He was a very keen pilot for a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
408059 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Just a quick update. Seems the owner has been caught up on some large work projects, hence the state of the aircraft. As an aside, a couple of the sharp aluminum edges of the wing frame seem to have cut there way through the fabric. Could large temperature changes in the hanger have caused this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Maybe hangar rash? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
408059 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Trying to make sense of the observation. The fabric folds into the aileron cut out and has been glued to a rib. The 150mm cut runs along the rib and the material covering the wing above the cut has curled. The material is obviously under tension. The rib is sharp. Mechanical flexing of the wing in flight and the sharp edge of the rib will have contributed to the cut. My question above goes to how sensitive fabric is to temperature changes. I recollect a LAME once telling me that putting my homebuilt tube and fabric covered aircraft into the sun would tighten the fabric. The temperature change in the hangar can change from -10 to 20 in a matter of a few hours. A differential of 30 degrees. Over time, could temperature variations contribute to the fabric failure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham brown Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 The 4 cyl Jab pushes the Cheetah along ok. I just delivered the red and white one with stars from Taree to Cowra. It cruised at 100 to 110knts. New owner has that grin that most get after flying them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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