Admin Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 The Office of Airspace Reform has provided advice of significant changes to the GLS approach runway 34 at Melbourne. These changes will impact aircraft transiting the northern portion of Port Phillip Bay. Specific information has been provided in the following links to a RAPAC document, an AIC, and chart extract, and RAAus encourages all pilots, instructors and students operating in and around this area to carefully review the information and reduction in controlled airspace lower limits. This affects the VFR transit lane around Port Phillip Bay and will become effective 8 November 2018. CFIs are requested to print and display this information for students, pilots and Instructors at the FTS. Members are requested to consider these changes when conducting flight planning in the area noted. 1
GraemeK Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 The Office of Airspace Reform Regulation has provided advice of significant changes to the GLS approach runway 34 at Melbourne. Fixed! (Ian, I know this is as copied from the RAAus email - but they should know better!)
pmccarthy Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Westbound at 1500 feet? I hope everyone reads this document or I will be head on with someone who follows the VFR cruising altitude rules. 3
GraemeK Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Westbound at 1500 feet? I hope everyone reads this document or I will be head on with someone who follows the VFR cruising altitude rules. or someone with the old VTC, where eastbound was 1500ft. What was CASA thinking? 1
facthunter Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 Don't use CASA and thinking in the same sentence. Someone in their employ should proof read all this stuff and try to eliminate areas likely to cause more risk and confusion especially at the time of introduction.
djpacro Posted November 5, 2018 Posted November 5, 2018 CASA: “The VTC aeronautical chart inset 1:150,000 scale has been updated with the new VFR lane procedures. This is a recommended procedure only ...” only recommended
pmccarthy Posted November 6, 2018 Posted November 6, 2018 So some will be going one way and others the opposite way. Sounds like fun on a busy route where people are rubbernecking the view. 1
Love to fly Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 Interesting the number of traffic alerts being given out for this area yesterday. ATC must love it not. Altona, Williamstown, BOM Tower featured regularly.
440032 Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 AIP SUP H132/18 Issued today 27 NOV 2018 has reversed the wrong direction levels put in place by CASA in direct contravention of their own regulations. Effective immediately. Beware though, you will still face oncoming traffic at the wrong levels (as per current VTC) who have not or will never see this AIP SUP. Perhaps "Request (or Require) traffic advisory" to Melbin Senna whenever transiting those routes, and if you don't get it, you are entitled to lodge a safety report, which will trace directly back to the originators of this massive rooster-up.
dsam Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 AIP SUP H132/18 Issued today 27 NOV 2018 has reversed the wrong direction levels put in place by CASA in direct contravention of their own regulations. Effective immediately. Beware though, you will still face oncoming traffic at the wrong levels (as per current VTC) who have not or will never see this AIP SUP. Perhaps "Request (or Require) traffic advisory" to Melbin Senna whenever transiting those routes, and if you don't get it, you are entitled to lodge a safety report, which will trace directly back to the originators of this massive rooster-up. What an absolute cock-up! Who do we blame for this? CASA? Airservices? Who do we sue when there is a midair because of this bureaucratic cluster f#*k? Disgraceful! 2
pmccarthy Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 And we knew it was a cock up from the outset, why didn't they? 1
Downunder Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 Does anyone in casa fly? Makes me wonder....
facthunter Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 Back to my post #5 why can't someone check it out before they promulgate it?. It's not funny actually.. You could/will get killed doing what they TELL you to do.. Nev 1
Downunder Posted November 27, 2018 Posted November 27, 2018 Email from Ozrunways. They have updated their maps. The advantages of electronic mapping hey? Changes can be made and devices updated with in hours, making aviation safer. CASA, you listening?....... Probably not.... 1
normfox Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Yes but it only makes things safer for those using OzRunways (and perhaps AvData) if the only other aircraft using the lane are also using up-dated EFB maps.. Most likely there will be pilots with very old paper maps, pilots with relatively recent paper maps and pilots without any maps at all. All of them using the lane and believing they know what to do!! Question for CASA. If an aviation company / training school / pilot made a stuff-up of this magnitude, what action would be taken against them? Well that's what I reckon should happen here. CASA banned and disbanded forthwith.
Love to fly Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Question for CASA. If an aviation company / training school / pilot made a stuff-up of this magnitude, what action would be taken against them? Well that's what I reckon should happen here. CASA banned and disbanded forthwith. hate to ruin a good story .. but methinks it was airservices not CASA that made the change ..
djpacro Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 From my contact at RAPAC: “..... The bigger issue is that CASA changed the direction of travel after the RAPAC presentation and other consultation. There was no consultation whatsoever about the change of flight direction at 1500 ft. The first RAPAC knew about it is when we saw the new charts along with everyone else. It also appears as if CASA sidestepped the OAR as well. ....” CASA did it all by themselves. 1
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