Kyle Communications Posted January 8, 2019 Posted January 8, 2019 Looks like maybe another hand grenade has gone off. Saw it on Ch10...Plane is wrecked but the pilot walked away all ok...At least the Jab airframe is very good He was flying from WA and engine quit around Mundubberra
facthunter Posted January 8, 2019 Posted January 8, 2019 In all fairness, should WE be calling them "hand grenades" when we have absolutely NO idea why it stopped.? Nev 6
Kyle Communications Posted January 8, 2019 Author Posted January 8, 2019 Sorry couldnt resist Nev......but it appears the engine just "stopped" according to the report. The main thing is the pilot is all ok. 1
facthunter Posted January 8, 2019 Posted January 8, 2019 We don't need to do the sensationalist fact free work of the media FOR them. . Nev 4
turboplanner Posted January 8, 2019 Posted January 8, 2019 Well we also don’t need to be concocting spin either. How about we find out why the engine just “stopped”. 2
alf jessup Posted January 8, 2019 Posted January 8, 2019 Flying from WA it might have started running on air. glad the chap is ok
frank marriott Posted January 8, 2019 Posted January 8, 2019 Facts will be of interest as with any accident. Bullshit and personal bias is of no interest and actually reflects on the poster. We have been through this crap before and just continual comments of this uninformed bias only adds to my ignor list - which I don’t like to use but continual rubbish from ANYONE trying to push their personal bias without any facts certainly makes me use the function. With the new site the list was deactivated but as SOME appear again with crap without fact I can see a few will need adding again. I refuse to read uninformed crap, the ABC covers that enough for me. 6 1
paddo2002 Posted January 8, 2019 Posted January 8, 2019 I saw this story too. Once again, I thought that if you are looking for a paddock to put down in with unfavourable conditions, the Jabiru would certainly be the plane to be in. Once again...pilot walks free. 1
elon Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 Flying from WA it might have started running on air. glad the chap is ok Confirmed from PIC - suffered from fuel starvation due to deviation from planned track from not perfect weather conditions.
Guest Lions2k4 Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 Definitely fuel starvation, happy to hear the pilot is fine
kaz3g Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 Wonder if he transmitted a Mayday Fuel at 30 minutes TTR? kaz 3 4
facthunter Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 Even the most perfect engines need fuel. Did he/she keep a flight log? At this point I must emphasise that to land when you still have enough fuel to use the engine is FAR preferable to having the engine just stop and have to do an unplanned, unexpected deadstick "off field" landing. .. Nev
Kyle Communications Posted January 9, 2019 Author Posted January 9, 2019 Definitely fuel starvation, happy to hear the pilot is fine Did you hear this from the pilots mouth or just an assumption? 1
Teckair Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 I heard he landed at Mundubbera and the motor stopped shortly after take off fuel starvation makes no sense to me. If he took off with almost empty tanks to go to Bundaberg then what the!! 1
Jaba-who Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 I heard he landed at Mundubbera and the motor stopped shortly after take off fuel starvation makes no sense to me. If he took off with almost empty tanks to go to Bundaberg then what the!! ERSA doesn’t show any fuel available at Mundubbera. Maybe he felt he had no choice but to push on and hope he could reach Bundaberg.
Thruster88 Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 I can understand flying with low fuel, I have done it, but over a forest ? That don't make cents.
Butch Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 ERSA doesn’t show any fuel available at Mundubbera. Maybe he felt he had no choice but to push on and hope he could reach Bundaberg. You always have a choice ! It' wether you want to take that choice. 1
turboplanner Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 It was only a guess that that’s what might have happened, but you don’t have a choice in a case like that. At the point of origin he is required to flight plan the fuel stop locations with the legally required reserve for each stop. If there is a horrific headwind or no fuel at one of the stops, he is not going to make the next the next destination with a legal fuel reserve, so his legal obligation is to stop and find some fuel or replan to an alternate field with fuel and with a reserve. if you’ve done Performance & Operations you’ll be able to do replanting in the air.
Teckair Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 ERSA doesn’t show any fuel available at Mundubbera. Maybe he felt he had no choice but to push on and hope he could reach Bundaberg. Maybe but that would be stupid. Pilots that want to live have to make better decisions than that. If the motor stopped for some other reason then that would be different. I doubt if he made it all the way from WA by being stupid.
kaz3g Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 Fuel starvation isn’t necessarily fuel exhaustion. kaz 3 3
Teckair Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 Fuel starvation isn’t necessarily fuel exhaustion. kaz Yes true do you think someone has been in a position to differentiate between the the two in this case? Given the aircraft is not easily accessible.
kaz3g Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 No idea but hopefully we will eventually Erin the facts...kaz
facthunter Posted January 9, 2019 Posted January 9, 2019 Agreed. Fuel can leak or pumps can fail. Another Plus for Hi wing? Filler caps can come off and make the bladder tanks empty while still showing full.. There's no mechanic in the sky. It has to be right before you fly. Nev 1
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