anjum_jabiru Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 Hi, I just checked the CASA website and the fee for CASA RPL appears to be only $50, compared to $246 for RA-Aus. Am I missing something? If it's only $50, is it possible to fly an RA-Aus registered aircraft with just a current RPL? Thanks for your input.
ClintonB Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 I thought an RPL did not cost per year, but requirement to pay for medical $75.00 unless you have extra stuff to test for. also BFR to be completed. should still need RAAus membership, and current Raa BFR to jump in numbers plane. i don’t think my RAAus is current due to not taking BFR on time, even though I fly around 50 hrs a year in VH rego. cheers clinton 1
Jaba-who Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 RPL ( and all GA licences) only have initial costs and then is perpetual at no cost. The medical cost can vary from 4 yearly down to 1 yearly depending on age and state of health. As far as flying RAAus aircraft on RPL- nope. Cant fly an RAAUS registered aircraft on ANY GA licence (RPL right up to ATPL or even a military licence). As far as the law is concerned in an RAAUS aircraft no other licence counts only the RAAUS certificate. Its totally stupid - we have 3 jab 230-430 types in my cohort of 3 flying mates. 2 are GA registered and 1 is RAUS. They are exactly the same except for the numbers on one and letters on the other 2. The owner of the RAAus one has a PPL as well. The owners of the others have PPL licences. One of us can legally fly all three, the other two of us can only legally fly 2 of them. Go figure! 1
pmccarthy Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 The GA AFR is good for RAA as well, just get the GA instructor to send in the form. 1
kgwilson Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 The cost is only reversed to a degree when you own a RA registered J230 compared to a VH registered J430 as maintenance is less stringent and L2 costs are generally less than VH LAME costs. I think a lot of it is to do with keeping VH LAME qualifications current. 1
GraemeK Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 The GA AFR is good for RAA as well, just get the GA instructor to send in the form. Don't even need to do that - I just email a scan of the logbook page to RAAus. Same with GA endorsements (RU, MPPC, etc, also for your X-country on your RPC).
djpacro Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 Part 61: AFR and endorsements don't go in logbooks - everything is on the licence.
GraemeK Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 Yep - but my last few have been in my logbook regardless (as well as on my licence)! Old habits die hard I guess!
anjum_jabiru Posted February 24, 2019 Author Posted February 24, 2019 Thanks guys. It's no point then in trying for a RPL if all you you intend to do is fly an RA Aus registered aircraft, now that the RAMPC (RA Medical Practitioner Certificate) is being phased out, as per CASA.
scre80 Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 You find it is the same requirement with the GFA, HGFA, and warbirds. Insurance is a big part of it. To convert, there is a 5 hour requirement. Before we argue if this is required or not, I have done a few with GA pilots converting, biggest issue is getting use to a lighter aircraft.
frank marriott Posted February 24, 2019 Posted February 24, 2019 You find it is the same requirement with the GFA, HGFA, and warbirds. Insurance is a big part of it. To convert, there is a 5 hour requirement. Before we argue if this is required or not, I have done a few with GA pilots converting, biggest issue is getting use to a lighter aircraft. The real issue is MOST testing etc is competency based as there is always variables, but RAA moving from a competency test to minimum 5 hours is a backward step IMO. Does not concern me as I did my RAA certificate when it was competency based so the “real” reason for 5hrs minimum is debatable, I call it BS. 3
Jaba-who Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 The cost is only reversed to a degree when you own a RA registered J230 compared to a VH registered J430 as maintenance is less stringent and L2 costs are generally less than VH LAME costs. I think a lot of it is to do with keeping VH LAME qualifications current. If it’s registered in experimental GA and you built it yourself you can do your own maintenance. the costs of maintenance are then minimal. Oil, filters etc and a couple of weekends.
kgwilson Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 True but don't the instruments all need to be TSO approved? Also you don't need a transponder for RA rego. Can't go into controlled space though.
frank marriott Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 Can't go into controlled space though. A 95.55 compliant RAA registered aircraft can & have been able to do so for years. The CTA restriction is on the RPC.
Thruster88 Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 True but don't the instruments all need to be TSO approved? Also you don't need a transponder for RA rego. Can't go into controlled space though. Transponders are not required for VH aircraft operating in class G airspace. If a transponder is fitted it must be turned on at all times.
kgwilson Posted February 25, 2019 Posted February 25, 2019 A 95.55 compliant RAA registered aircraft can & have been able to do so for years. The CTA restriction is on the RPC. Without a transponder?
frank marriott Posted February 26, 2019 Posted February 26, 2019 Without a transponder? Transponder required for class C but not for class D. 1
Jaba-who Posted February 28, 2019 Posted February 28, 2019 True but don't the instruments all need to be TSO approved? Also you don't need a transponder for RA rego. Can't go into controlled space though. Not sure to what situation you are referring but assuming it was answering my post immediately before yours about doing your own maintenance for GA experimental. Nope not at all. Only if you want to have it certified for IFR.
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