International flight id

[Tim E]

Hi all..can anyone help me with a plane / flight id? Beautiful greeny blue turqouise colour on top gleaming in the sun. Flew over King Valley here near Wangaratta at approx 11.45-11.50 a.m, about 5 minutes before UA 840..I'm assuming it was heading to Sydney. Nothing else showed up around that time on melair.com except a Vietnam Airlines flight which I thought is more of a blue plane..this plane was more of a turqoise green/blue and the greenness came out strongly in the sunshine.

 

I'm sure I know the airline answer or have seen this plane before but my brain can't figure it out.

 

Any ideas? Thanks Tim

 

 

[Robbo]

You need planeplotter Tim :)

 

 

[Robbo]

Hang on...

 

Your not thinking of Cathay Pacfic are you?

 

 

[Tim E]

LOL..I thought you or Chainy might say that Robbo..you are right of course..I will put it on my shopping list or Christmas list. Mr Rudds cheque arrvied on Wednesday and its all gone already on paying bills! :)

 

p.s tattslotto tonight will change things!

 

 

[Tim E]

Yep could well be Robbo..but no Cathay flight showed up on Melair..at least as passenger flight info..

 

 

[Robbo]

Hmmmm just going through the acars logs now

 

 

[Tim E]

Thanks for checking Robbo.

 

Could have been Cathay but I think the turqouise green extended all the way along the top to cabin..and rest of undercarriage etc was metallic rather than white...it was gleaming in the sun..seemed to be turqouise but the sun tended to highlight the greenness in the paint if that makes sense. It was heading into the sun so I couldnt quite get all the view I wanted as I had to look away. Was exactly 4-5 minute ahead of UA 840..actually thought it was UA coming so grabbed the glasses but it beat UA by 4-5 minutes.

 

 

[Robbo]

got me stumped.

 

 

[Tim E]

Think I have solved it . Vietnam Airlines. Melair has its pushback at 11.02 and UA 840 at 11.18..must have been a slight delay on tarmac as only 5 minutes apart when they overflew here in Moyhu just south of Wang.

 

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Thanks to one of Gi Jacks photos.....this looks very similar to what I saw..with the colour on top right up to the nose. I realised before I was using an old pair of binocs with tinted lenses and this must have altered the blue top to a more turquoise colour. Thanks for the pics Jack..helped me to i.d it.

 

Having said that though, does Viet have two colour schemes? See the two photos Jack has provided..are these the same or different schemes?. I saw the first one.

 

See Jacks great pics below.

 

http://theaussieaviator.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=1035

 

http://theaussieaviator.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=2093

 

Thanks to Robbo and Chainy for their ideas and inputs on the id.

 

 

[Guest Chainsaw]

Only one colour scheme mate. I bet that feels better knowing what it was.

 

 

[Tim E]

Yep feels good Chainy..thanks! Think it looks a bit different in the sky to the second photo of Jack's on the ground as you see more of the underside up there. To think my binocs altered the perception of colour just enough to confuse me. I had seen the plane before but not often..guess that flight might only go a few times a week and not every day..... and I had assumed it went directly north rather than via Sydney.

 

I'll have to use my other binocs in future when spotting..my good ones..otherwise I'll be identifying Jetstar planes as Virgin Blue ones! I'll save the older ones for spotting cows or ride on mowers in the paddocks! :)

 

 

[Guest Darren Masters]

Definitely VN airlines mate. Awesome colour scheme and only one of a kind. Just think of me as your 'resident VN aviation expert'. LOL. It is very nice in the sun

 

 

[Tim E]

Hi Darren..yes it did look great..I got thrown by the greenish tinge..still not sure whether that was just my tinted binocs or if the gleaming sun picked up the green out of the blue... more than the normal blue tone I'm used too..looked good! How many trips a week does she do Darren? I'll try to keep an eye out for her more often.I thibnk I always just assumed she went direct from YMML but I guess it makes sense to pick up the Sydney passnegers as well.

 

 

[Guest Darren Masters]

VN 780 is the departing flight out of Melbourne. She is direct MEL-SGN. She does not stop in Sydney. Think it is every odd day there whilst Sydney-Saigon is daily. Their blue always looks awesome with the sun shining off it

 

 

[Tim E]

Would be interested in the flight path to Sing Darren..would that have

 

been her usual route or slightly different to normal? She flew over

 

Moyhu here (King Valley ) on the normal Sydney flight path so I just

 

assumed she was heading to Sydney first..the other internationals seem

 

to take a more western path over Shepparton way (or maybe the Brisbane

 

traffic)? I'm keen to learn about flight paths.

 

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[Guest Darren Masters]

Mate, below is the normal 'track' for VN flights. You can look up the waypoints in Google Maps. They may have been chasing winds.

 

Computed route from MELBOURNE (YMML, YM) to TAN SON NHAT INTL (VVTS, VV): 34 fixes, 3715.5 nautical miles

 

Cruise altitude between FL330 and FL330

 

YMML (0.0nm) -SID-> KEPPA (67.0nm) -UH336-> NYA (182.5nm) -J19->

 

UVUPU (258.2nm) -J19-> BHI (381.2nm) -T25-> SAPED (427.1nm) -T25->

 

GUGAB (544.1nm) -T25-> POLEV (731.9nm) -T25-> PULOL (898.4nm) -T25->

 

ANZAC (1013.2nm) -T25-> YUSEF (1101.3nm) -T25-> TNK (1221.4nm) -J30->

 

DOSAM (1394.7nm) -J30-> TN (1545.7nm) -J251-> NOVEM (1617.6nm) -J251->

 

MAVER (1642.7nm) -J251-> DN (1697.8nm) -B583-> NATAL (1778.0nm) -B583->

 

SHEPP (1848.1nm) -B583-> ELBIS (1972.1nm) -B583-> PORAK (2303.9nm) -B583->

 

LADOP (2707.6nm) -B583-> MAMOK (3038.1nm) -B583-> BRU (3109.9nm) -M768->

 

DOGOG (3165.9nm) -M768-> ASISU (3223.5nm) -M768-> TODAM (3279.0nm) -M768->

 

LAGOT (3356.0nm) -M768-> AKMON (3453.0nm) -M768-> MOXON (3516.0nm) -M768->

 

DAGAG (3582.3nm) -M768-> ELSAS (3648.9nm) -M768-> LOSON (3684.1nm) -DCT->

 

VVTS (3715.5nm) Details:ID FREQ TRK DIST Coords Name/Remarks

 

YMML 0 0 S37°40'24.00" E144°50'36.00" MELBOURNE

 

KEPPA 311 67 S36°47'48.00" E143°58'33.00" KEPPA

 

NYA 112.8 332 116 S34°58'08.00" E143°13'58.00" NATYA

 

UVUPU 324 76 S33°50'30.00" E142°32'54.00" UVUPU

 

BHI 114.2 325 123 S32°00'02.42" E141°28'48.00" BROKEN HILL

 

SAPED 320 46 S31°21'06.00" E141°00'24.00" SAPED

 

GUGAB 320 117 S29°41'07.00" E139°50'00.00" GUGAB

 

POLEV 325 188 S26°55'12.00" E138°10'12.00" POLEV

 

PULOL 326 166 S24°27'18.00" E136°45'42.00" PULOL

 

ANZAC 328 115 S22°44'47.00" E135°49'29.00" ANZAC

 

YUSEF 328 88 S21°25'54.00" E135°07'12.00" YUSEF

 

TNK 112.9 329 120 S19°38'05.00" E134°10'55.00" TENNANT CREEK

 

DOSAM 336 173 S16°54'10.00" E133°12'00.00" DOSAM

 

TN 112.3 337 151 S14°31'09.00" E132°22'16.00" TINDAL

 

NOVEM 322 72 S13°31'48.00" E131°40'30.00" NOVEM

 

MAVER 322 25 S13°11'03.00" E131°26'03.00" MAVER

 

DN 112.6 322 55 S12°25'23.00" E130°54'22.00" DARWIN

 

NATAL 313 80 S11°27'07.00" E129°58'11.00" NATAL

 

SHEPP 314 70 S10°36'00.00" E129°09'18.00" SHEPP

 

ELBIS 314 124 S09°05'18.00" E127°43'42.00" ELBIS

 

PORAK 315 332 S04°58'38.84" E124°00'23.52" PORAK

 

LADOP 316 404 N00°01'42.36" E119°30'40.87" LADOP

 

MAMOK 316 331 N04°05'06.00" E115°47'12.00" MAMOK

 

BRU 112 311 72 N04°52'28.52" E114°53'07.77" BRUNEI

 

DOGOG 305 56 N05°25'18.00" E114°07'42.00" DOGOG

 

ASISU 306 58 N05°59'06.00" E113°20'46.00" ASISU

 

TODAM 306 55 N06°31'38.00" E112°35'36.00" TODAM

 

LAGOT 305 77 N07°16'32.00" E111°32'43.00" LAGOT

 

AKMON 305 97 N08°12'56.00" E110°13'08.00" AKMON

 

MOXON 305 63 N08°49'30.00" E109°21'18.00" MOXON

 

DAGAG 305 66 N09°27'48.00" E108°26'30.00" DAGAG

 

ELSAS 308 67 N10°08'12.00" E107°32'54.00" ELSAS

 

LOSON 308 35 N10°29'36.00" E107°04'32.00" LOSON

 

VVTS 309 31 N10°49'14.00" E106°39'39.00" TAN SON NHAT INTL

 

Tracks are magnetic, distances are in nautical miles. YMML SID KEPPA UH336 NYA J19 BHI T25 TNK J30 TN J251 DN B583 BRU M768 LOSON DCT VVTS

 

 

[Tim E]

Thanks Darren. Tim

 

 

[Robbo]

oh man i am gonner have to remember them soon :( ****** hell lol

 

 

[Tim E]

Head down..get stuck into those books Robbo! No rest for the wicked!:biggrin:

 

 

[Robbo]

Nar im getting ready for a night on the town with Mr Masters tommorow :)

 

 

[Guest Darren Masters]

Nar im getting ready for a night on the town with Mr Masters tommorow :)

Oh look out! :eek:

 

 

[Robbo]

:biggrin::biggrin:

 

Not going to hijack this thread, but Darren you better prepare yourself

 

Poor Choppy is still recovering from meeting me Speaking of choppy he was goner come but he has poker :rolleyes:

 

 

[Guest ads]

Speaking of VN 780:

 

Thursday's flight out of Melbourne was all tracking fine on its usual path just west of Bendigo, heading N/W over Mildura and beyond; until I noticed that it started banking east and was last seen on the radar tracking N/E over Kerang at 'reportedly' 150kts.

 

Doesn't quite seem right, I would like to think that radar was showing incorrect info....unless this flight was chasing some wind?

 

Anyway flightstats.com is listing the flight's status as 'uknown'.

 

I forgot to check SGN's website for any arrival info.

 

Obviously the plane didn't crash as it would have been in the news, however I'd be interested to find out which path this flight flew once it crossed the Vic/NSW border.

 

Is there any way to find out online?

 

Cheers

 

Would be interested in the flight path to Sing Darren..would that havebeen her usual route or slightly different to normal? She flew over

Moyhu here (King Valley ) on the normal Sydney flight path so I just

 

assumed she was heading to Sydney first..the other internationals seem

 

to take a more western path over Shepparton way (or maybe the Brisbane

 

traffic)? I'm keen to learn about flight paths.

 

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[Tim E]

Yep....interesting flight paths..she didnt come anywhere over near here today...

 

 

[Robbo]

Must have known you were watching :)